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‎Characters vs Characters appearing in the trailer:

Ages

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Alamarri

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Ages

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‎Move & Split candidate + other stuff:

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Talk:Ages

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‎Renaming page: new section

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Grand Cathedral

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‎History:

Alamarri

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Talk:Ages

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‎Move & Split candidate + other stuff:

The First

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Alamarri

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‎Civil wars and schism:

Messenger

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The Messenger

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The Seeker

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Alamarri

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‎Known Alamarri:

The Seeker

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The Withered

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The Withered

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Forum:How did Zevran survive meeting the Varterral?

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Flemeth

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Adding categories

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‎Towers:

The Architect

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	::::No, it's nitpicking. I recall this article also saying Dragon Age Inquistion would be called Dragon Age III: Inquistion, and be released in Fall 2013. That information changed, and the article changed to reflect it. That is how thin your argument is.		::::No, it's nitpicking. I recall this article also saying Dragon Age Inquistion would be called Dragon Age III: Inquistion, and be released in Fall 2013. That information changed, and the article changed to reflect it. That is how thin your argument is.
	::::As it currently is, there are several sources that say that the characters will be in the game, including the one that I offered, and the ones that Mostlyautumn offered. Now, you say the ''"connection is there because you [I] want it there"'', this is blatantly not true, in fact the opposite is true; you are deliberately trying to interpret in way that supports your argument. He is asked about game details, and he talks about game details. For now at least, these are confirmed details. They may change, but as it currently is we have no evidence to say it will. [[User:Alexsau1991\|Alexsau1991]] <sup> [[User talk:Alexsau1991\|(talk page)]]</sup> [[File:Goddammit.svg\|20px]] 23:00, June 17, 2013 (UTC)		::::As it currently is, there are several sources that say that the characters will be in the game, including the one that I offered, and the ones that Mostlyautumn offered. Now, you say the ''"connection is there because you [I] want it there"'', this is blatantly not true, in fact the opposite is true; you are deliberately trying to interpret in way that supports your argument. He is asked about game details, and he talks about game details. For now at least, these are confirmed details. They may change, but as it currently is we have no evidence to say it will. [[User:Alexsau1991\|Alexsau1991]] <sup> [[User talk:Alexsau1991\|(talk page)]]</sup> [[File:Goddammit.svg\|20px]] 23:00, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
		+	:::::Gentlemen, please stop fighting in the war room. The current state of the section is factually accurate and succinct, and that's all that matters. If you want to continue the discussion about nitpicking, please use your respective user talk pages, because here, it bothers other people. :) --[[User:Koveras Alvane\|Koveras Alvane]] ([[User talk:Koveras Alvane\|talk]]) 14:36, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

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	* 5185 FA or -1220 TE: The [[Alamarri]] tribes cross the Frostback Mountains and settle in the lands that will eventually become [[Ferelden]]. Alamarri legends says they were fleeing a “shadow goddess”, but scholars believe they were escaping a natural disaster. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.12."></ref>		* 5185 FA or -1220 TE: The [[Alamarri]] tribes cross the Frostback Mountains and settle in the lands that will eventually become [[Ferelden]]. Alamarri legends says they were fleeing a “shadow goddess”, but scholars believe they were escaping a natural disaster. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.12."></ref>
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		+	* 5785 FA or -620 TE: The Alamarri living near Lake Calenhad break away, becoming the Avvars. The two groups war with each other for centuries. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.13.">''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.13.</ref>
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		+	* 5900 FA or -505 TE: The Neromenian tribes split to form four kingdoms: Tevinter, Neromenian, Barindur and Qarinus. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.13."></ref>

	* 6405 FA or 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais\|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches\|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.		* 6405 FA or 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais\|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches\|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.

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 == History ==
 === Ancient times ===
-When the Alamarri first passed into Ferelden from the distant west, some moved into the swampy forest vastness and the tundra beyond it to the south now known as the [[Korcari Wilds]]. These folk became known as the [[Chasind Wilders]], a strange twisted people plagued by dark desires.
+When the Alamarri first passed into Ferelden from the distant west in [[Ages|-1220 TE]] <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.12.">''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.12.</ref>, some moved into the swampy forest vastness and the tundra beyond it to the south now known as the [[Korcari Wilds]]. These folk became known as the [[Chasind Wilders]], a strange twisted people plagued by dark desires.
 === War with the Tevinter Imperium ===

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 * 4750 FA or -1655 TE: Elves are said to first notice the quickening, ending their immortality and frightening them into the withdrawal from human contact. This is thought by many to be mere legend. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.11."></ref>
-* -1605 TE: The Old Gods are said to begin whispering to humanity from the Golden City. They teach the Dreamers of the Neromenian tribes magic. Power shifts, and these Dreamers become both priests and kings among their people. <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.12.>>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.12.</ref>
+* 4800 FA or -1605 TE: The Old Gods are said to begin whispering to humanity from the Golden City. They teach the Dreamers of the Neromenian tribes magic. Power shifts, and these Dreamers become both priests and kings among their people. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.12.">''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.12.</ref>
-* -1220 TE: The Alamarri tribes cross the Frostback Mountains and settle in the lands that will eventually become Ferelden. Alamarri legends says they were fleeing a “shadow goddess”, but scholars believe they were escaping a natural disaster. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.12."></ref>
+* 5185 FA or -1220 TE: The [[Alamarri]] tribes cross the Frostback Mountains and settle in the lands that will eventually become [[Ferelden]]. Alamarri legends says they were fleeing a “shadow goddess”, but scholars believe they were escaping a natural disaster. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.12."></ref>
 * 6405 FA or 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.
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	* 4750 FA or -1655 TE: Elves are said to first notice the quickening, ending their immortality and frightening them into the withdrawal from human contact. This is thought by many to be mere legend. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.11."></ref>		* 4750 FA or -1655 TE: Elves are said to first notice the quickening, ending their immortality and frightening them into the withdrawal from human contact. This is thought by many to be mere legend. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.11."></ref>
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		+	* -1605 TE: The Old Gods are said to begin whispering to humanity from the Golden City. They teach the Dreamers of the Neromenian tribes magic. Power shifts, and these Dreamers become both priests and kings among their people. <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.12.>>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.12.</ref>
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		+	* -1220 TE: The Alamarri tribes cross the Frostback Mountains and settle in the lands that will eventually become Ferelden. Alamarri legends says they were fleeing a “shadow goddess”, but scholars believe they were escaping a natural disaster. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.12."></ref>

	* 6405 FA or 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais\|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches\|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.		* 6405 FA or 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais\|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches\|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.

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 == Pre-Ages ==
-* 1 FA or -6405 TE: Arlathan is founded some three thousand years before the arrival of humans on the continent. The date is so far removed from recorded history that it is difficult to pinpoint in Chantry years. <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
+* 1 FA or -6405 TE: Arlathan is founded some three thousand years before the arrival of humans on the continent. The date is so far removed from recorded history that it is difficult to pinpoint in Chantry years. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.10">''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
-* 3000 FA or -3405 TE: The elves are believed to first make contact with the dwarves. <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
+* 3000 FA or -3405 TE: The elves are believed to first make contact with the dwarves. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.10"></ref>
-* 4500 FA or -1905 TE: Records claim humanity arrives in Thedas around this date. This is disputed by scholars, who ask where the humanity came from and why they left.  <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.>>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
+* 4500 FA or -1905 TE: Records claim humanity arrives in Thedas around this date. This is disputed by scholars, who ask where the humanity came from and why they left.  <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.11.">''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
-* 4750 FA or -1655 TE: Elves are said to first notice the quickening, ending their immortality and frightening them into the withdrawal from human contact. This is thought by many to be mere legend. <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.>>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
+* 4750 FA or -1655 TE: Elves are said to first notice the quickening, ending their immortality and frightening them into the withdrawal from human contact. This is thought by many to be mere legend. <ref name="[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]. p.11."></ref>
 * 6405 FA or 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.

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 == Pre-Ages ==
-* -6405 TE: Arlathan is founded some three thousand years before the arrival of humans on the continent. The date is so far removed from recorded history that it is difficult to pinpoint in Chantry years. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
+* 1 FA or -6405 TE: Arlathan is founded some three thousand years before the arrival of humans on the continent. The date is so far removed from recorded history that it is difficult to pinpoint in Chantry years. <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
-* -3405 TE: The elves are believed to first make contact with the dwarves. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
+* 3000 FA or -3405 TE: The elves are believed to first make contact with the dwarves. <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.>''. p.10.</ref>
-* -1905 TE: Records claim humanity arrives in Thedas around this date. This is disputed by scholars, who ask where the humanity came from and why they left.  <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
+* 4500 FA or -1905 TE: Records claim humanity arrives in Thedas around this date. This is disputed by scholars, who ask where the humanity came from and why they left.  <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.>>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
-* 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.
+* 4750 FA or 1655 TE: Elves are said to first notice the quickening, ending their immortality and frightening them into the withdrawal from human contact. This is thought by many to be mere legend. <ref name=''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.>>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
 :History records that [[elves]] and humanity were hostile and that Tevinter led the way in aggressive retaliation against the elven city of Arlathan. The elves responded by retreating from human contact, and Tevinter thus flourished and spread. The first "dreamers" learned the use of [[lyrium]] to enter the [[Fade]] from elven captives, and these dreamers later became the first of the Imperium's ruling [[magisters]].

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 :::I like the look of that, especially having the dates on the sidebars--makes it very easy to do a quick-check of what the date ranges are for that age.[[User:Kelcat|Kelcat]] ([[User talk:Kelcat|talk]]) 06:27, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
-'''Good folk of the dragonage.wikia.com!'''
+== Good folk of the dragonage.wikia.com! ==
 :I'm a recent fan of the Dragon Age universe and when I've encountered this website, which is the tremendous source of information, I was a little bit surprised. For that I would like to thank all those spending time and upgrading the site.
 :And I also have a couple of suggestion, which would help to make this dtabase more complete.
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 If you all discuss about spliting informations of this page, then I have an idea. Renaming the page "Ages" on "Timeline". How do you find it? Pros and cons are welcome.[[Special:Contributions/78.8.3.82|78.8.3.82]] ([[User talk:78.8.3.82|talk]]) 13:59, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

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 == Pre-Ages ==
-* 1 FA: Arlathan is founded some three thousand years before the arrival of humans on the continent. The date is so far removed from recorded history that it is difficult to pinpoint in Chantry years. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
+* 1 FA or -6405 TE: Arlathan is founded some three thousand years before the arrival of humans on the continent. The date is so far removed from recorded history that it is difficult to pinpoint in Chantry years. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
-* -4600 Ancient: The elves are believed to first make contact with the dwarves. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
+* 3000 FA or -3405 TE: The elves are believed to first make contact with the dwarves. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
-* -3100 Ancient: Records claim humanity arrives in Thedas around this date. This is disputed by scholars, who ask where the humanity came from and why they left.  <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
+* 4500 FA or -1905 TE: Records claim humanity arrives in Thedas around this date. This is disputed by scholars, who ask where the humanity came from and why they left.  <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
-* -2850 Ancient: Elves are said to first notice the quickening, ending their immortality and frightening them into the withdrawal from human contact. This is thought by many to be mere legend. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
+* 6405 FA or 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.
 :History records that [[elves]] and humanity were hostile and that Tevinter led the way in aggressive retaliation against the elven city of Arlathan. The elves responded by retreating from human contact, and Tevinter thus flourished and spread. The first "dreamers" learned the use of [[lyrium]] to enter the [[Fade]] from elven captives, and these dreamers later became the first of the Imperium's ruling [[magisters]].

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	--[[User:Prothy the Prothean\|Prothy the Prothean]] ([[User talk:Prothy the Prothean\|talk]]) 12:28, June 18, 2013 (UTC)		--[[User:Prothy the Prothean\|Prothy the Prothean]] ([[User talk:Prothy the Prothean\|talk]]) 12:28, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
	::Feel free to add all the info you think is needed. But make sure you cite it. And yes, we are using two formats - one for pre-Chantry and one for post-Chantry. [[User:Henio0\|Henio0]] ([[User talk:Henio0\|talk]]) 13:15, June 18, 2013 (UTC)		::Feel free to add all the info you think is needed. But make sure you cite it. And yes, we are using two formats - one for pre-Chantry and one for post-Chantry. [[User:Henio0\|Henio0]] ([[User talk:Henio0\|talk]]) 13:15, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
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		+	== Renaming page ==
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		+	If you all discuss about spliting informations of this page, then I have an idea. Renaming the page "Ages" on "Timeline". How do you find it? Pros and cons are welcome.[[Special:Contributions/78.8.3.82\|78.8.3.82]] ([[User talk:78.8.3.82\|talk]]) 13:59, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

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	== Pre-Ages ==		== Pre-Ages ==
		+	* 1 FA: Arlathan is founded some three thousand years before the arrival of humans on the continent. The date is so far removed from recorded history that it is difficult to pinpoint in Chantry years. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
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		+	* -4600 Ancient: The elves are believed to first make contact with the dwarves. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.10.</ref>
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		+	* -3100 Ancient: Records claim humanity arrives in Thedas around this date. This is disputed by scholars, who ask where the humanity came from and why they left. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
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		+	* -2850 Ancient: Elves are said to first notice the quickening, ending their immortality and frightening them into the withdrawal from human contact. This is thought by many to be mere legend. <ref>''[[Dragon Age: The World of Thedas]]''. p.11.</ref>
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	* 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais\|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches\|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.		* 1 TE: The Tevinter Imperium is created with the crowning of the first [[Archon]]. Prior to this event, only scattered fragments are known. It is believed that elves existed in the land first and that humans came from elsewhere—though there are many theories about from where that might be, and few historians agree. Some suggest that humans came from across the ocean as the Qunari did, but if so, there is no record from such a time. Humans spread across [[Thedas]] - as various tribes of people known as the Hacian and the [[Alamarri]], and those started other tribes such as [[Orlais\|Ciriane]] and [[Free Marches\|the Planacene]] - but it is the Tevinters, centered on the port city of [[Minrathous]], who became ascendant.

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 == History ==
-About 15 years before the [[Divine Age]], the followers of the Cults of [[the Maker]] began building a temple dedicated to their god, as the new religion spread quickly in the Kingdom of Ciriane, also known as Orlais. About ten years later in [[Ages|1192 TE]] Orlais becomes [[The Empire of Orlais]], and its king, [[Kordilius Drakon]], becomes the emperor as he conquers many lands which he then converts to his own religion. Drakon establishes Cults of the Maker as the main religion of the country, and founds [[Chantry]]. Since then the temple serves as centre of the Chantry.
+About 15 years before the [[Divine Age]], the followers of the Cults of [[the Maker]] began building a temple dedicated to their god, as the new religion spread quickly in the Kingdom of Ciriane, also known as Orlais. About ten years later in [[Ages|1192 TE]] Orlais becomes [[Orlais|The Empire of Orlais]], and its king, [[Kordilius Drakon]], becomes the emperor as he conquers many lands which he then converts to his own religion. Drakon establishes Cults of the Maker as the main religion of the country, and founds [[Chantry]]. Since then the temple serves as centre of the Chantry.
 Three years later, in [[Divine Age|1:1 Divine]], the first [[Divine]] is selected. Justinia I is instated as leader of the religious order of Chantry at the still unfinished temple.
 The Grand Cathedral is finished nearly two hundred years later in [[Glory Age|2:99 Glory]]. Because of its two big towers visible for miles, the [[Towers Age]] is named.
 == Trivia ==

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-The '''Alamarri''' were the tribal ancestors of the [[:category: Fereldans|Fereldans]], the people who live in the nation of [[Ferelden]].
+The '''Alamarri''' are the tribal ancestors of the [[:category: Fereldans|Fereldans]], the people who live in the nation of [[Ferelden]]. "Alamarri" is not a single tribe, but a loose coalition of tribes started by the Alamarri peoples.
 == History ==

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	:Besides it looks like this page uses two different calendars (Tevinter and Chantry), although Chantry calendar is much more suited for dating the ancient events. It is simple and I think the developers and writes using only Chantry calendar is the proof to that.		:Besides it looks like this page uses two different calendars (Tevinter and Chantry), although Chantry calendar is much more suited for dating the ancient events. It is simple and I think the developers and writes using only Chantry calendar is the proof to that.
	--[[User:Prothy the Prothean\|Prothy the Prothean]] ([[User talk:Prothy the Prothean\|talk]]) 12:28, June 18, 2013 (UTC)		--[[User:Prothy the Prothean\|Prothy the Prothean]] ([[User talk:Prothy the Prothean\|talk]]) 12:28, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
		+	::Feel free to add all the info you think is needed. But make sure you cite it. And yes, we are using two formats - one for pre-Chantry and one for post-Chantry. [[User:Henio0\|Henio0]] ([[User talk:Henio0\|talk]]) 13:15, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

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 {{characterTransformer
 |name        = [[The First]]
 |image       = TheFirst.jpg
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 }}
-'''The First''' is one of [[the Disciples]], an intelligent [[darkspawn]] and one of the major antagonists in ''[[Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening]]''.''
+'''The First''' is one of [[the Disciples]], an intelligent [[darkspawn]].
 == Involvement ==
-The First is a talking darkspawn you meet in the [[Blackmarsh]]. It is very loyal to [[the Mother]] and hates [[the Architect]], and [[the Warden-Commander]]. The First apparently killed the [[Grey Warden]] Kristoff, the person the player was seeking in the first place. The First was sent by the Mother to leave a trap for the Warden-Commander, sending [[the Warden]] and his/her companions into [[The Fade]], but didn't realize that ''it'' was included in the trap as well. Once he realized he had been betrayed, it vowed to find his own way out of the Fade and get revenge on The Mother.
+{{SpoilerDAOA|style=short|The First is a talking darkspawn you meet in the [[Blackmarsh]]. It is very loyal to [[The Mother]] and despises [[The Architect]], and the [[Warden-Commander]]. The First apparently killed the [[Grey Warden]] [[Kristoff]], the man that the Commander was looking for, in the first place. The First was sent by the Mother to leave a trap for the Warden-Commander, sending the Commander and his/her party into [[The Fade]], but didn't realize that ''it'' was included in the trap as well. Once it realizes that it had been betrayed, it vowes to find his own way out of the Fade and get revenge on The Mother.
-It attempted to secure its way out by allying himself with the [[Baroness]]. When the Warden-Commander allied with the [[Justice|Spirit of Justice]] to take her down, the two clashed. Upon defeat, it pleaded with the Baroness to send them back out to the real world; she agreed, but used its lifeforce with [[blood magic]], sending the Warden, Justice, and herself back to the real world.
+* It attempts to secure its way out by allying himself with the [[Baroness]]. When the Warden-Commander allies with the [[Justice|Spirit of Justice]] to take her down, the two clashed. Upon defeat, it requests from the Baroness to send them back out to the real world; however she uses instead its lifeforce to return herself back to the mortal world while the Warden, his/her party and Justice are accidentally sent back as well.
-Alternatively if the Warden-Commander allied with the Baroness, The First will side with the Spirit of Justice. After the skirmish The First will have survived and as the Baroness requires a living vessel to conjure her spell that will send the Warden-Commander out of the Fade, she uses the weakened First. Although it tries to escape, it ultimately proves futile as he is caught in the spell.
+{{Note|The First will always refuse to co-operate with the Warden-Commander stating that it will find the way out on its own.}}}}
 == Drops ==
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 == Bugs ==
 [[File:1.jpg|right|thumb|The talking, decapitated First.]]
 If you slay the First using a [[Daggers|dagger]], [[Greatswords|greatsword]] or [[Longswords|longsword]], the finishing blow will decapitate it, and the First speaks without a head during the following cutscene.
 == See also ==
-* [[Sentinel Armor Set]]
+{{:Sentinel armor set|style=iconmini}}{{clrl}}
 {{DEFAULTSORT:First, The}}
 [[Category:Characters]]
 [[Category:Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening characters]]
-[[Category:Creatures]]
+[[Category:Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening creatures]]
 [[Category:Darkspawn]]
 [[Category:Deceased]]

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	I've got it! Zevran survived because he was wearing Gaider's Greater Plot Armor --''--[[User:Isolationistmagi\|<span style= "color: purple"><b><font face="Segoe Script">Isolationistmagi</font></b></span>]]'' 00:04, June 7, 2013 (UTC)		I've got it! Zevran survived because he was wearing Gaider's Greater Plot Armor --''--[[User:Isolationistmagi\|<span style= "color: purple"><b><font face="Segoe Script">Isolationistmagi</font></b></span>]]'' 00:04, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
	:For Gaider it's never enough to giving so many of us reasons to disrespect him.[[Special:Contributions/78.8.138.123\|78.8.138.123]] ([[User talk:78.8.138.123\|talk]]) 15:01, June 8, 2013 (UTC)		:For Gaider it's never enough to giving so many of us reasons to disrespect him.[[Special:Contributions/78.8.138.123\|78.8.138.123]] ([[User talk:78.8.138.123\|talk]]) 15:01, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
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		+	the theory about dalish blood could be true and the reason why he attacked in witch hunt was because of the darkspawn taint inside the warden and co.--[[User:Kitetsuto\|Kitetsuto]] ([[User talk:Kitetsuto\|talk]]) 12:47, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

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 === Civil wars and schism ===
-Several centuries after they first came to Ferelden, a great civil war rose among the tribes that caused one large faction to break away from the Alamarri. The rebels eventually became known as the [[Avvars|Avvarian]] hillsmen. Though it was not the first civil war, as throughout their history the tribes fought witch each other.<ref>[[Codex entry: The Legend of Luthias Dwarfson]]</ref>  The Avvars didn't fully separate from the Alamarri until at least after the [[First Blight]], as the Alamarri leader leading the [[Exalted Marches#Against the Tevinter Imperium|Exalted Marches]] by the name of [[Maferath]] was an Avvar. <ref>[[Codex entry: Havard's Aegis]]</ref> The Avvars took the hills as their land, and the remaining Alamarri stayed in the Fereldan Valley and became known as "the lowlanders" to the Avvars.
+Since then powerful warlords known as "banns" led the Alamarri in near constant struggle with their fellow tribes, as each bann sought to widen his territory and influence. The term "bann" comes from at least the [[Towers Age]]<ref>[[Codex entry: Flemeth]]</ref>.
-=== The teyrns ===
+Several centuries after they first came to Ferelden, a great civil war rose among the tribes that caused one large faction to break away from the Alamarri. The rebels eventually became known as the [[Avvars|Avvarian]] hillsmen. Though it was not the first civil war, as throughout their history the tribes fought witch each other.<ref>[[Codex entry: The Legend of Luthias Dwarfson]]</ref>  The Avvars didn't fully separate from the Alamarri until at least after the [[First Blight]], as the Alamarri leader leading the [[Exalted Marches#Against the Tevinter Imperium|Exalted Marches]] by the name of [[Maferath]] was an Avvar. <ref>[[Codex entry: Havard's Aegis]]</ref> The Avvars took the hills as their land, and the remaining Alamarri stayed in the Fereldan Valley and became known as "the lowlanders" to the Avvars.
 During the [[second Blight]], [[Hafter]], the first bann to be named teyrn, united the Alamarri tribes in order to drive back the [[darkspawn]]. After the [[Blight]], the Alamarri leader finally ended the war with the [[Chasind Wilders]] over the control of Fereldan Valley. <ref>[[Codex entry: The Dogs of War]]</ref> Since then, the Chasind never left [[Korcari Wilds|the swamps]], nor did the Alamarri enter them.

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 <onlyinclude>{{CharacterTransformer
-|style = {{{style|}}}
+|style       = {{{style|}}}
-|name = [[Messenger]]
+|name        = [[Messenger]]
-|image  = NPC-Messenger.jpg
+|image       = NPC-Messenger.jpg
-|px = 270px
+|px          = 270px
-|title  = Messenger
+|race        = [[Elf]]
-|race  = [[Elf]]
+|title       = Messenger
-|voice  = [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0523180/ Yuri Lowenthal]
+|location    = [[Dalish Camp]]
 |appearances = [[Dragon Age: Origins]]
 }}</onlyinclude>
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 == Involvement ==
-He appears after [[Nature of the Beast]]. Speaking to him will reveal extra lore about the Dalish, though no [[codex]] entries.
+He appears after [[Nature of the Beast]] in the [[Dalish Camp]]. Speaking to him will reveal extra lore about the Dalish, though no [[codex]] entries.
-If the [[The Warden|Warden]] is Dalish the messenger will tell them that he is looking for their clan, and will deliver a message from them.
+If the [[The Warden|Warden]] is Dalish the messenger will tell them that he is looking for their [[Sabrae clan|clan]], and will deliver a message to them.
-'''''Note:''''' ''If you convinced Zathrian to lift the curse, hence killing himself and [[Witherfang]] and releasing the werewolves from their curse, the messenger might not appear in the Dalish Camp right away. To make the messenger appear, you can simply travel to Party Camp and return. The messenger will then be there.''
+{{Note|If you convinced [[Zathrian]] to lift the curse, hence killing himself and [[Witherfang]] and releasing the werewolves from their curse, the messenger might not appear in the Dalish Camp right away. To make the messenger appear, you can simply travel to [[Party Camp]] and return. The messenger will then be there.}}
 [[Category:Characters]]
 [[Category:Dragon Age: Origins characters]]

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 '''The Messenger''' may refer to:
-*[[The Messenger (Awakening)]], a darkspawn Disciple from [[Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening]]
+* [[The Messenger (Awakening)]], a [[darkspawn]] [[The Disciples|Disciple]] from ''[[Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening]]''.
-*[[The Messenger armor set]] from the [[Mark of the Assassin]] DLC for [[Dragon Age II]]
+* [[The Messenger armor set]] from the [[Mark of the Assassin]] [[DLC]] for ''[[Dragon Age II]]''.
 It may also refer to:
 * [[Codex entry: The Messenger]]
  {{Disambig}}

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 }}</onlyinclude>
-'''The Seeker''' is an intelligent [[darkspawn emissary]] that serves [[the Architect]].
+'''The Seeker''' is one of [[The Disciples]], intelligent [[darkspawn]] [[emissary|emissaries]]. The particular Disciple is serving [[the Architect]].
 == Involvement ==
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 {{:Codex entry: The Architect's Journal|style=iconmini}}{{clrl}}
 {{:Codex entry: The Architect's Notes|style=iconmini}}{{clrl}}
 {{DEFAULTSORT:Seeker, The}}

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 == Known Alamarri ==
 {{Section stub}}
-* [[Maferath]], a warlord in power in the time after the [[First Blight]]
+* [[Calenhad]], born in [[Highever]]
-* [[Hafter]], the first [[Ferelden#Teyrn.2FTeyrna|teyrn]]
+* Cormac, famous for his fight against the [[Chasind]] and [[Witches of the Wilds]]
-* [[Disciple Havard]], the first of the [[Disciples of Andraste]]
+* Bann Connobar, husband of [[Flemeth]], and lord of [[Highever]]
 * [[Dane]], an Alamarri hero
 * [[Codex entry: The Legend of Luthias Dwarfson|Luthias the Dwarfson]], an Alamarri [[Berserkers|Berserker]] leader
 * [[Codex entry: History of Kirkwall: Chapter 2|Radun]], [[slavery|enslaved]] in [[Kirkwall]], who started the slave rebellion
 * [[Ruadan]], an Avvarian "shaman" and [[mage]]

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 |style       = {{{style|}}}
 |name        = [[The Seeker]]
-|gender      =
+|gender      = N/A
 |race        = [[Darkspawn]]
 |location    =

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 |gender      = N/A
 |race        = [[Darkspawn]]
 |class       = [[Warrior (Origins)|Warrior]]
 |voice       = [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1035752/ Mark Meer]

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 == Summary ==
-Concept art of the architect
+Promotional image of [[Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening]].
 == Licensing ==
 {{Bioware image}}
 [[Category:Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening promotional images]]

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 <onlyinclude>{{characterTransformer
 |name        = [[The Withered]]
-|image       = TheWithered.jpg
+|image       = The Withered.png
 |px          = 270px
 |gender      = N/A
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 }}</onlyinclude>
-'''The Withered''' is a [[the Disciples|Disciple]], an intelligent [[darkspawn]] [[emissary]] and one of the antagonists in ''[[Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening]]''. It led the organized darkspawn attack on [[Vigil's Keep]] in the start of the game. It is first mentioned by Rowland when the [[Warden-Commander]] sees him wounded, saying that he encountered a "talking darkspawn" that infused something in his blood with powerful magic, probably the taint. It is seen in the roof of [[Vigil's Keep]] dealing with the keep seneschal after it kicks a soldier off the edge.
+'''The Withered''' is a [[The Disciples|Disciple]], an intelligent [[darkspawn]] [[emissary]].
 == Involvement ==
-The Withered is the first Disciple and boss that the Warden-Commander encounters. When the Warden reaches the top of Vigil's Keep, the Withered kicks a Keep soldier off the edge to a grisly death. It then proceeds to try and break [[Seneschal Varel]] when the Warden-Commander arrives. The Withered speaks to the Warden almost as a normal person (much to the delight of [[Anders]]), but toward the end of the conversation it reveals its true motive: to capture the Warden and destroy Vigil's Keep. He is subsequently defeated by the Warden-Commander. Its body cannot be looted, due to the cutscenes that immediately follow.
+{{SpoilerDAOA|The Withered is the first Disciple and boss that the Warden-Commander encounters. When the Warden reaches the top of Vigil's Keep, the Withered kicks a Keep soldier off the edge to a grisly death. It then proceeds to try and break [[Seneschal Varel]] when the Warden-Commander arrives. The Withered speaks to the Warden almost as a normal person (much to the delight of [[Anders]]), but toward the end of the conversation it reveals its true motive: to capture the Warden and destroy Vigil's Keep. He is subsequently defeated by the Warden-Commander. Its body cannot be looted, due to the cutscenes that immediately follow.
-It is later claimed that The Withered was sent as an emissary from [[The Architect]] to form an alliance with the [[Grey Wardens]]. It suggests that The Withered's violence was an act of self-defense, as humans have the tendency to attack darkspawn on sight, and that the Wardens of Vigil's Keep attacked him on sight. This doesn't explain why The Withered travelled with a small army of darkspawn to Vigil's Keep or why the survivor tells The Warden that a sneak attack was launched against the Wardens. The Withered is killed when it confronts the Warden-Commander.
+It is later claimed that The Withered was sent as an emissary from [[The Architect]] to form an alliance with the [[Grey Wardens]]. It suggests that The Withered's violence was an act of self-defense, as humans have the tendency to attack darkspawn on sight, and that the Wardens of Vigil's Keep attacked him on sight. This doesn't explain why The Withered travelled with a small army of darkspawn to Vigil's Keep or why the survivor tells The Warden that a sneak attack was launched against the Wardens. The Withered is killed when it confronts the Warden-Commander.}}
 == Abilities ==
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 * "You are thinking you know of our kind human? It is understandable... but ''that will soon be changed'' !"
 * "Be taking this one gently...We are wishing no more death than is necessary."
 == Trivia ==
 The first cutscene of the Withered is an evident quote to "Baldur's Gate", the cutscenes when he throw a soldier over the roof and get impaled is similar to the starting video of Baldur's Gate.
-The first cutscene of the Withered is an evident quote to the masterpiece of the gdr genre "Baldur's Gate", the cutscenes when he throw a soldier over the roof and get impaled is similar to the starting video of Baldur's Gate.
+{{DEFAULTSORT:Withered, The}}
 [[Category:Characters]]
 [[Category:Creatures]]
 [[Category:Darkspawn]]
-[[Category:Deceased]]
+[[Category:Hurlocks]]
 [[Category:Warriors]]

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 == Towers ==
-* 3:0 Towers: [[Alamarri]] and [[Chasind]] myths place the legend of [[Codex entry: Flemeth|Flemeth]] during this period.
+* 3:0-99 Towers: [[Alamarri]]'s [[Chasind]] myths place the legend of [[Codex entry: Flemeth|Flemeth]] and Lord Connobar during this period.
 * 3:10s Towers: The [[Old God]] [[Toth]] awakens, and the [[Third Blight]] erupts in the central lands of [[Thedas]] with [[darkspawn]] coming in greater numbers than ever before. Darkspawn swarm the Tevinter cities of Marnas Pell and Vyrantium as well as the Orlesian cities of Arlesans and Montsimmard.

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 === ''Dragon Age: The Calling'' ===
 {{TCSpoiler|
-[[File:TheArchitect.png|thumb|right|150px]]
+[[File:TheArchitect.png|right|150px]]
 The Architect is first seen by Bregan after the darkspawn capture and take him to a prison cell in a section of the [[Deep Roads]]. It begins to explain the situation to Bregan, and attempts to persuade him away from his suicidal path. However, Bregan soon attempts an escape, only to be captured shortly after.
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 {{Darkspawn lore}}
 {{DEFAULTSORT:Architect, The}}
 [[Category:Characters]]