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There is nothing I would not do for my homeland.

Character
Loghain Mac Tir

Loghain
Race:
Gender:
Male
Class:
Rank:
Title:
Teyrn of Gwaren
Regent of Ferelden
Grey Warden (possibly)
Specialization:
Quests:
Family:
Gareth of Oswin (father)
Celia (wife)
Anora (daughter)
Appearances:

Born into occupied Ferelden, Loghain Mac Tir and King Maric Theirin drove out the Orlesian Empire more than thirty years before the events of the Fifth Blight.

Loghain was raised to the position Teyrn of Gwaren for his service to King Maric. To Ferelden, he represents ideals of hard work and independence. After King Maric was lost at sea, Loghain became responsible for defending Ferelden and guiding his naive and inexperienced son-in-law, King Cailan Theirin.

Background Edit

Dragon Age: The Stolen Throne Edit

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“I fall off horses. It's this thing I do.” — Maric
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Born as a Freeman, Loghain was the son of a farmholder from Oswin in the western Bannorn, Gareth of Oswin. After the Orlesian invasion, the Emperor declared a tribute tax from all of Fereldan Freemen. Loghain's father refused to pay the tax collectors, and, as a result, was accused of tax evasion and lost the farmhold.

The family resisted, but the Orlesian soldiers bested them, forcing Loghain and his father to watch as they raped and killed Loghain's mother. Gareth was nowhere to be found for the next three days. When he finally returned, he informed his son that he had murdered the Orlesian commander responsible. Unable to stay in Oswin, they lived on the run in the Fereldan wilds, banding together with other desperate Fereldans to eke out a living however they could.

While living with the outlaws, Loghain met Maric, though he was not initially aware of Maric's royal blood. When the Orlesian forces caught up with them, Gareth charged his son with saving the Prince. Loghain eventually managed to escort Maric to Arl Rendorn Guerrin and later joined the rebel army. He became one of Maric's closest friends, as well as a key military advisor of the rebel cause. His strategies, and his creation of the guerrilla Night Elves, were responsible for many of the rebels' greatest victories.

Over the course of the rebellion, Loghain fell in love with Rowan Guerrin, who was betrothed to Maric and thus the future queen. After Maric fell in love with Katriel, Rowan and Loghain formed a romantic relationship. Both relationships were short-lived, however; Loghain discovered and revealed to Maric that Katriel was a spy, which resulted in her death. After this, Loghain encouraged Rowan to marry Maric to assist him and guide Ferelden as queen. Afterwards Loghain led the Ferelden forces at the critical Battle of River Dane and was rewarded for his leadership by being made Teyrn of Gwaren.

Despite his encouragement of their relationship, Loghain's own relationship with both Maric and Rowan became strained. After the marriage, he rarely spent time in their company.

Dragon Age: The Calling Edit

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In the years after the death of Queen Rowan, Loghain supported King Maric. Duncan observed that Loghain seemed to be the true ruler.

Despite having a beautiful wife and young daughter in Gwaren, Loghain preferred to stay in Denerim, claiming that Maric needed him. Maric commented on this noting that, "We are all running away from something".

Loghain was suspicious of the Grey Wardens, suspecting them of being in league with the Orlesians. After Maric vanished following a meeting with the Wardens and First Enchanter Remille, Loghain deployed the army to search for the missing King while he also spied on the Orlesians in Kinloch Hold as he was certain that they would betray them. Two days after the tower was taken over by Orlesian mages and templars who allied with the Architect, Loghain led an assault on Kinloch Hold through Lake Calenhad.

The attack was successful and Loghain was surprised when he found King Maric in the tower as well. Loghain believed the plot was the doing of the Grey Wardens and felt Maric made a mistake in continuing to trust them. He disapproved when Maric allowed the Wardens to return to Ferelden and re-establish their order there on a permanent basis.

King Maric's Disappearance Edit

King Maric Theirin disappeared at sea while en route to Wycome in 9:25 Dragon. Teyrn Loghain spent almost two years searching for his lost friend, consuming much of the royal treasury and the majority of the Fereldan navy. The search was futile, and when Loghain claimed that Orlais had purposefully sunk King Maric's vessel in order to prevent Marcher unity, he was called off by his daughter, Queen Anora, and a united Bannorn. It was time to mourn the king, they said, and so, in 9:27, a massive state funeral was held in Denerim's chantry.[1]

Involvement Edit

Dragon Age: Origins Edit

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Loghain

Loghain

Loghain is first encountered at the fortress of Ostagar; the Warden can meet him at his tent, or in the pre-battle meeting.

As the Teyrn commanding the army, Loghain is responsible for devising the tactics that will be used in the Battle of Ostagar. Loghain's plan utilizes the anvil and hammer strategy; the Grey Wardens are to act as the anvil, drawing the main body of darkspawn, and Loghain's troops will flank the darkspawn once the beacon is lit.

Although Loghain advises him not to fight on the front lines, King Cailan refuses and insists on accompanying the Wardens. Cailan also insists on having the two newest Grey Wardens, the Warden and Alistair, light the beacon; Loghain and Uldred disagree, but acquiesce to the King's desire in the end. Despite a darkspawn attack on the beacon tower, the Wardens eventually manage to light the beacon; however, on seeing the lit beacon, Loghain orders his troops to retreat, leaving King Cailan and the Grey Wardens to die.

After the battle at Ostagar, he declares the Grey Wardens traitors and places a bounty on their heads. He also declares himself regent for his daughter Anora. This is not met with approval from the Bannorn, and civil war ensues.

With Arl Rendon Howe as his main advisor, Loghain takes drastic measures to secure Ferelden, such as allowing elves to be sold into slavery, and hiring Zevran Arainai, an Antivan Crow to assassinate the remaining Grey Wardens.

He refuses all Orlesian reinforcements, not believing Celene's intentions are honest. Neither Howe nor Anora can convince him otherwise. Rumours circulate that the reason he abandoned Cailan at Ostagar was that Cailan hoped to cement a union of kingdoms with the Orlesians by putting aside Anora, who was believed to be barren, and marrying the Empress Celene.

At the Landsmeet, Arl Eamon Guerrin and the Warden confront Loghain. If he wins the Landsmeet, Loghain will attempt to arrest the party and Arl Eamon, and a fight will ensue. If the Warden wins the Landsmeet, Loghain will refuse to abide by the Landsmeet's decision and try to stage a coup.

This fight can be avoided with enough support. Whether there is a fight or not, the matter of who will rule Ferelden is still uncertain. To resolve the impasse, a duel must be fought. The Warden can elect to fight this duel, or select another companion.

If anyone besides Alistair duels Loghain, he will yield after losing the duel, allowing the Warden to decide his fate. If this happens, Riordan will suggest he be recruited to the Grey Wardens; the Warden also has the option of personally executing Loghain or allowing Alistair to do it. If Alistair is chosen for the duel, he will kill Loghain after he yields without any other options.

If Loghain is recruited, the Warden can speak to him regarding a number of things, from his feelings about Ostagar to why Alistair was not acknowledged as an heir. Recruiting Loghain causes Alistair to leave the party, without exception.

In a conversation with Zevran, he states that he has lost all his titles, and should be addressed simply as "Loghain."

If asked to consider Morrigan's offer, he will express reluctance to participate and request to be the one to sacrifice his life to strike the killing blow against the Archdemon, arguing that it is a form of redemption for his mistakes.

If Loghain survives the battle with the Archdemon: During the Post-Coronation celebrations he'll state that he has come to respect the Warden and reveals that Anora has now tasked him with recruiting new Grey Wardens.

Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening Edit

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In Awakening (if a Warden was imported with Loghain alive at the end), he arrives at Vigil's Keep and states that he has been transferred to the city of Montsimmard to serve with the Orlesian Grey Wardens, by order of the Grey Warden leaders in Weisshaupt.

He hands the Warden-Commander the battleaxe Frenzy, ten sovereigns and a Grey Warden shield banner he found in the Denerim vault before departing. If the Male Human Noble married Anora, he will make a number of related comments, including suggesting plans for an heir.

Strategy Edit

See Loghain Mac Tir (strategy).

Gifts Edit

Loghain is fond of maps; giving these as gifts will significantly boost his approval.

Name Notes Description

Tre ico map 5
Botanist's Map of Thedas
Unobtainable via normal means
A botanist's map of Thedas, showing where rare plants may be found on the continent.
Tre ico map 1
Ancient Map of the Imperium
An antique, wine-stained map showing the boundaries of the ancient Tevinter Imperium.
Tre ico map 2
Current Map of Ferelden
A clean and fairly up to date map showing the borders of modern Ferelden.
Tre ico map 3
Map of the Anderfels
A beautiful illustrated map of the Anderfels that includes drawings of strange beasts.
Tre ico map 4
Map of Occupied Ferelden
An old map showing Ferelden as part of Orlais. Naturally, many such maps were destroyed when the Orlesians were driven out.

Initial statistics Edit

Attributes Edit

Relative attribute weightings on auto-level:

Strength Dexterity Willpower Magic Cunning Constitution
0.95 0.8 0.5 0 0.15 1.6

Specialization Edit

Classico champion Champion

Talents Edit

Champion Talent-WarCry icon War CryTalent-Rally icon RallyTalent-Motivate icon MotivateTalent-Superiority icon Superiority
Warrior Powerful Talent-Powerful icon PowerfulTalent-Threaten icon ThreatenTalent-Bravery icon Bravery
Precise Striking Talent-PreciseStriking icon Precise StrikingTalent-Taunt icon TauntTalent-Disengage icon DisengageTalent-PerfectStriking icon Perfect Striking
Weapon and Shield Shield Bash Talent wns shieldbash Shield BashTalent wns shieldpummel Shield PummelTalent wns overpower OverpowerTalent wns assault Assault
Shield Block Talent wns shieldblock Shield BlockTalent wns shieldcover Shield CoverTalent wns shieldtactics Shield TacticsTalent wns shieldmastery Shield Mastery
Note: His base strength and dexterity are not high enough to normally learn high-tier Weapon and Shield talents. He will also have Superiority even before he reaches level 16 (marginally possible, if you postpone all side quests until after Landsmeet).

Equipment Edit

Weapons Ico longsword LongswordLongsword
Longsword
Varies (Tier 1-7)
Requires: 11 strength

Damage: 7.00
Critical chance: 2.00%
Armor penetration: 2.00
Strength modifier: 1.00
Armor Ico armor massive River Dane armor setRiver Dane armor set

Silverite (Tier 6)

Armor: 24.16
Fatigue: 33.75%
+5 strength
+5 willpower
+1.25 stamina regeneration in combat
Set: +2 strength
Set: +1 cunning
Set: +6 attack
Set: +4 defense
Ico shield kitemetal Loghain's ShieldLoghain's Shield
Kite shield
Silverite (Tier 6)
Requires: 34 strength

Fatigue: 4.00%
Strength modifier: 1.00
+20 physical resistance
Accessories Ico beltpouch Borders Yet to BeBorders Yet to Be
Belt
An optimistic--some might say fanciful--map in a belt case, with the borders of Ferelden adjusted to represent Loghain's machinations. Whether he regards it as unfinished or folly is not forthcoming.

+2 willpower

Plot skills Edit

As you befriend Loghain and gain his approval, he will gain the following additional skills:

Name Benefit Requirement
Inspired: Minor Strength +1 to strength 25% approval
Inspired: Moderate Strength +2 to strength 50% approval
Inspired: Major Strength +4 to strength 75% approval
Inspired: Massive Strength +6 to strength 90% approval
Note: These bonuses are non-cumulative, i.e. the total bonus is +6, not +13.

Quotes Edit

Main article: Loghain Mac Tir/Dialogue
  • '"How fortunate Maric did not live to see his son ready to hand Ferelden over to those who enslaved us for a century!"
  • "Your fascination with glory and legends will be your undoing, Cailan. We must attend to reality."
  • "Traitors! Which of you stood against the Orlesian emperor when his troops flattened your fields and raped your wives?"
  • "I underestimated you, Warden. I thought you were like Cailan, a child wanting to play at war. I was wrong. There's a strength in you I've not seen anywhere since Maric died. I yield."
  • (On the occupation of Ferelden) "Hate doesn't describe it. I've seen painted, masked lords beat an old farmer to death with riding crops. To this day, I don't know why. Is that hate? I saw good, sensible men fighting armored chevaliers with nothing—no weapons, no armies, not even hope of success—to see the occupation end. Is that hate?"
  • "Please, I have done... so much wrong. Allow me to do one last thing right."

Dialogue Edit

  • Loghain: "So, there is some of Maric in you after all. Good."
  • Alistair: "Forget Maric. This is for Duncan."

Trivia Edit

  • The name "Mac Tir" means "son of the land." It was given to him by Maric after the Battle of River Dane[2] It is fitting, not only due to his patriotism, but also because he is the son of a farmer.
  • He married Celia, the daughter of a cabinet maker.
  • Loghain owned a mabari when he was a child. He named her Adalla, and had her for 10 years before an Orlesian took her to use her for breeding with his hunting dogs. Some time later Loghain was reunited with his dog, when the Orlesian threw the mabari out of a moving wagon. The dog was so weak that it died a week later in Loghain's lap.
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  • Loghain does not get along with any of the Warden's companions except for Dog. He seems to like the mabari, and shares stories of his own dog Adalla with him, as well as offers him treats such as cheese and ham.

Gallery Edit

See also Edit

Ico codex entry Codex entry: Loghain Mac Tir
Heavy armor green DA2 Arms of Mac TirArms of Mac Tir
Medium chestpiece
Gilt
Requires: Level 17

Armor: 334
Rune slot Rune slot Rune slot
+52 mana/stamina
+13% critical chance
+16% critical damage
+23% magic resistance

References Edit

  1. Codex entry: King Maric's Helm
  2. Codex entry: Arms of Mac Tir

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