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If you read Dragon Age: Asunder and Dragon Age: The Masked Empire, what did you expect in plot of Dragon Age: Inquisition and what did not satisfy you?
After the former novel I expected mage-templar war to be ended in a great spectacular battle and instead you take one of the factions and another is taken and brainwashed by your nemesis to another war. Battle at Haven wasn't the final battle, it wasn't even a part of mage-templar war as purposes of both factions are changed and army you didn't choose doesn't fight for their original cause, they are brainwashed slaves of the big bad, they are no longer themselves. I expected Lambert to be dead but I didn't expect Cole trying to save the templars after his sworn alligence to Rhys. However even if Cole's case was strange it did satisfy me.
After the latter novel I also expected War of the Lions to be ended in a great battle as well. But when I reached that event there was no war but its over. Of course I expected to support Celene or Gaspard or Briala but in battle not the Game. Participation in the Game was satisfying but I just expected battles or at least support of either of them on war table missions to gain trust of one of them. Similar things we had to do in the Orzammar Succession. Restored romance between Briala and Celene was so unrealistic to me after showing how toxic it was in the novel. Celene made Briala an orphan and lied her whole time what caused Briala cease to trust Celene and start to hate her. I wanted to meet Imshael again and deal with him but in a more spectacular way. I even expected the Forbidden One to be main antagonist of Dragon Age: Inquisition or at least to have a major quest. Instead of this I have simply a side quest with a small scene. My expectations of him were completelly failed.Andrzej.lewinski.351 (talk) 18:57, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
What I loved about Asunder is that it took the time to explain how the mage-templar war resulted from a series of events, not just from Anders' attack on the Chantry. The latter was just the catalyst for more disastrous actions by both the mages and the templars. I hate how they ignored all of that in Inquisition and simplified the matter to the bare minimum by just blaming it all on Anders ("the actions of one madman"). That being said, I do love Cole's transition from Asunder to Inquisition. I think Patrick Weekes did a great job with his character development. And I also would have loved a Rhys and Cole reunion.
I agree that Gaspard and Celene's war ended in an anticlimactic way. These two tore apart their own lands and burned their cities for the sake of the throne, and then it all just suddenly ended...like it had never really happened. I thought we'd see more of the consequences of their war, other than a few burning buildings and displaced citizens. Regarding Briala and Celene, I don't think it's too unrealistic for them to have reconciled. When they parted in The Masked Empire, it was made clear that they still had feelings for each other (though I never really got a sense of chemistry between them). Also, I don't really consider it a fully restored romance. Briala knows that Celene will always choose to protect her empire over the alienage elves, and Celene knows that Briala knows. So I consider it a tentative reunion with a dash of romance and a dash of distrust.
Speaking of Briala, I really expected her eluvian network to play a bigger role in the game, but all we got was a vague note written by Gaspard and a war table operation that only mentions it in passing. That was rather disappointing. --
Keladin Storm 21:12, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
I was expecting more with the grey wardens now that they have griffons but nothing so I'm just hoping that a DLC will be about them Clan Lavellan's Next Keeper (talk) 21:52, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
- I expect Griffons would appear in the last or 2nd to last DLC for inquisition, or even on the next dragon age game, weren't they found as eggs?--Jcama (talk) 00:46, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
- I'd expect the First Warden to want to keep the knowledge of their existence hidden for as long as possible, so I doubt they'll appear as early as the DLC. --
Keladin Storm 01:26, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
I was expecting the mage-templar rebellion to have more various consequences in which side I choose, other than simply fighting either Venitori or red templars in the long run of the game. I was also expecting their rebellion to affect more of Thedas, rather than just the Hinterlands I was also hoping to see Rhys and Evangeline with Cole involved in the inquisition. Instead, they're just in war table assignments. I was also hoping to learn more about the eluvians through Briala, but instead Morrigan had on knowledge on it and Briala never even mentioned the eluvians. Magic713 (talk) 02:23, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
What you have to realize is that most players have not read the books, so they only have the events of Origins and DA 2 in their minds. If the developers drew too heavily from the books for the plot of Inquisition it might confuse many people and even alienate some players. Remember, the books are supplemental to the games, not the other way around. Silver Warden (talk) 02:26, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
- My thoughts exactly. Expecting some sort of grand conclusion of events that were relegated to supplementary materials is kind of... um, unrealistic. Plus, it would make the game bloated and unfocused - and I probably shouldn't even mention the cost of it, as well as time it would take to add this to the game (and they've already had a year more to work on it). From what I've read on Gaider's now-deleted tumblr account, he said they've cut 1/3 of material written for the game, and for him it was a good thing, because DAI turned out to be massive anyway. It doesn't mean we won't see some things added through DLCs - but I wouldn't bet it's something that people aren't at least passingly familiar with, without them having to read books or comics to figure out what's going on. -((MidnightTea7))
- Still some NPCs could say about events in the novels in short just like about events from previous games, so those who didn't read the books or played the previous game knew what was thay about. In Assassin's Creed 3 fans knew why did Daniel Cross got a strong headache and started to speak Russian. In Mass Effect 2 are mentioned events of novel Ascention, in Mass Effect 3 is mentioned what did Kai Leng and Paul Grayson do.Andrzej.lewinski.351 (talk) 06:56, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
- They do. Rhys, Cole, Evangeline, Michel de Chevin all reference and summarize parts of the books.
- Also just as my own personal view, I can't think of anything that quite captures the Orlesian system of politics quite so well as a masquerade ball peppered with murders and conspiracies. That is Orlais in a nutshell and at least to my mind, a very thematically appropriate conclusion. It is kind of a shame that they didn't go into the Eluvians from Briala's perspective further but admittedly that would require Gaspard, Celene or Briala revealing said information, which would obviously make no sense since they're all scheming to seize the network exclusively for themselves.
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09:05, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
From the perspective of someone who hasn't read the books, having the eluvians mentioned at the winter palace would be a bad idea. I'd be sitting there like "WHAT?! You have eluvians?!?!" And then it would have to be explained and then it wouldn't fit at all with the storyline they gave to Morrigan and it would completely distract from the main objective to choose someone for the throne. Maybe Briala's eluvians will come up in later games. But it really wouldn't fit with Inquisition. Heidirs (talk) 13:33, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
- I reacted on Samson as red templar general "WHAT?! How could you?!?! Why did you join Cory?!?!" but good explanations would fit everything. The books were supposed to be preludes to main problems of the game just like The Stolen Throne to Origins and the Calling to Awakening. Players would didn't purchase DLC Witch hunt could be a bit surprised some players who didn't play DLC Legacy were surprised by Hawke's connection to Corypheus.Andrzej.lewinski.351 (talk) 17:16, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
- Only Witch Hunt and Legacy are both DLCs/expansions to the game and NOT novels. In other words they're much more important to the lore/story than things presented in other formats. And while there might be people who didn't buy DLCs, there's enough explanation from Hawke and Varric in Inquisition to know that *something* has happened. -((MidnightTea7))
- Also, the novels follow Bioware's DA universe, whereas the DLC all fit into every possible DA universe the same way. For example, Wynne is alive in Asunder but in some DA universes the player killed her at the Circle Tower or in the Gauntlet. Alistair is alive and rules Ferelden alone in Bioware's universe, but he could be dead, a drunk, a grey warden, or married to Anora in the universes created by the players. So while much of what happens in the books also happens in the other DA universes, they aren't actually part of every DA universe the players could create. And that, if nothing else, is why they must be relegated to the sidelines in the games. Silver Warden (talk) 19:25, February 26, 2015 (UTC)