Every time I looked at the different people that make up both advisors and companions I kept coming back to thinking why are BOTH the left and right hand of the divine present? Yes it is stated that you don’t have to recruit certain members but for the most part if you recruit everyone then there is a heavy influence of the andraste system of belief not to mention the divine/chantry directly.
I was just speculating what happened that would make BOTH the left and Right hand of the divine come to the inquisitor? As the inquisitor you may not know that they are close to the divine but once you find out wouldn’t this cause some wonder as to why?
Was it the divine herself asking them both for different reasons to ‘watch’ and help the Inquisitor? If so does this watching also include something else? Can that something else be a point of mistrust between them individually and the inquisitor?
Was it that in some way the divine angered one or the both of them; they thought she was ‘different’ and she had to do something that swayed their faith in HER and the chantry. Could this be why Leliana is so angry in the video. She says “Anger is more powerful than any pain” What pain is that? Betrayal? Being let down again by her faith in her friends and religion? Yes it’s been ten years and a lot can happen in 10 years but really wondering what that could be.
Was it more personal reasons? Both trying to continually find themselves in this ever insane world of Thedas?
Forgive if this has been asked or presented in some way I was just watching the video again and the way Leliana has changed so it may be hard to get back to using her in the game or trusting the character. Of course trust shouldn’t be based on their carefree attitudes but I hope you get what I’m attempting to ramble about. Undeadpoet (talk) 18:45, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
There is much indicating that the Divine herself is dead and that the Seekers of truth still loyal to the chantry (among which Cassandra and Leliana are to be included) are the ones who founded the inquisition. As for many members being andrastian, Well... it is set in andrastian countries after all. Caspoi (talk) 19:25, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
Yes I remember the history saying that after forming during the first blight the first Inquisition joined the chantry and became the seekers of truth, but this inquisition seems to be more independent and such. As for the Divine being dead, interesting, since I didn't read the comics or books I don't know but would it be by politics/heretics or one of her 'hands' that did it. Could that be the reason Leliana is so bitter? Trust me I am speculating to the nth degree so if someone says I am wrong..yeah more then likely LOL. Undeadpoet (talk) 19:50, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
No, the new inquisition was founded by the Seekers of truth (they returned to their original form) according to David Gaider. And it is indicated that the Divine was killed during the peace talk at the temple of the sacred ashes (during the "blast that killed thousands". Caspoi (talk) 19:59, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
- Alright HUGE spoiler: An article in the Australian Gamer mag from about a year ago had one of the people from Dragon Age's team (think it was Cameron Lee actually) directly state that there was a peace conference between the Chantry, Mages, and Templars in the Temple of The Urn of Sacred Ashes. Before anyone had anything to say a huge explosion (The Breach) destroyed the Temple and all the people inside of it. Here's where the huge spoiler comes in. Divine Justinia V was in that peace conference. She's dead. This all happens in the prologue of DA:I. I agree with Caspoi that the Seekers probably created the Fledgling Inquisition so things wouldn't get too out of hand and that someone would find out what happened. Cassandra and Leliana are probably leading the Fledgling Inquisition. (sorry if I'm parroting you Caspoi I had planned for this comment to be put out earlier than yours.) B.S.S.T. (talk) 20:03, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
It's all right and because of that it is more that you join their inquisition than that they join yours. Caspoi (talk) 20:13, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
Ahh yes now I remember way back when they mentioned the peace talks the one where the inquisitor is the only survivor and you have the powers do to it. I also thought that Fiona is supposed to be there as well but she seems to have gotten out or may have, if she appears later. I can see how Cassandra and Leliana would continue in the divine's name and create the fledgling Inquisition. once again that gives them both that 'don't get close to me I have had enough pain' air about them, since they have lost one of the main influences in their lives. Peace talks, mmm wonder if that was a set up by the main evil to wipe out all that opposed it; or just inevitable happening that was going to happen whether or not anything else occurred just to do chain reactions. doubt the second one really but this is me blurting out things. I love to try to get what motivates the character. And thank you for the info!! Undeadpoet (talk) 20:23, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
I never thought of the possibility of Justina being dead. Till now, I figured we'd see her appoint us as Inquisitor and maybe as one of the people we can support or betray. Still, her Hands might be there to aid us and represent the Chantry in our organization.--Mike Gilbert 21:37, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
"what happened that would make BOTH the left and Right hand of the divine come to the inquisitor?" -> Demons pouring out of the sky. 67.61.238.87 (talk) 23:22, August 10, 2014 (UTC)
Demons, definitely good reason, lol and I get that major factor but what I was really asking was I wonder why Leliana was so harsh, I made her hardened in Origins but wow, something over those ten years truly got to her. It could have been the steps of the war, of how things were turning south every time she turned around but what if it was that one thing...that one betrayal or death that made her snap? Undeadpoet (talk) 15:50, August 11, 2014 (UTC)
The question isn't so much "Why would Leliana & Cassandra be working with the Inquisition?" but rather "Why wouldn't they?" If the rumoured prologue of Inquisition is true, that several leaders of the world are killed in an explosion during some attempt of a peace conference and the Divine is one of those killed, then Leliana and Cassandra are going to want to know who did the deed and why. And if there's one person who survived the explosion, they are going to work with them for two reasons (a) If this person is involved somehow, then you are going to have two of the most dangerous women in the Thedas ready to dispense some punishment. or (b) If this person isn't involved, then they are still the best lead as to who caused the Veil tear.--Madasamadthing (talk) 21:00, August 11, 2014 (UTC)
Maybe Leliana is so cold because she's angrey she failed to protect the Divine, makes sense to me. The other thing though is IF the Divine is killed why wasn't Leliana by her side? In the books Leliana is always with Justina during the scenes the Divine appears, seems odd to me she wasn't there for the peace talks. Xsari (talk) 22:25, August 11, 2014 (GMT)
Guys. They've said it...quite a few times now. She reacted the way she did, was as harsh and cold in the video as she was, because she was tortured by that guy for who knows how long before we show up to stop it. She was being tortured right up until our arrival. Tortured. And you keep asking why she seems so angry? 67.61.238.87 (talk) 06:49, August 12, 2014 (UTC)