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Well, reading a bit of Last Flight got me thinking, since the Warden's are recruiting mages, if I think I read correctly, they've become somewhat of a haven for mages, could this be seen as an interference which leads to Templars or maybe even a pro-templar inquisition attacking some Warden bases? Lazare326 15:22, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

I thought the Warden policy was not to recruit more than like two mages per country or something like that. I suppose if they are now taking in all comers, then yes, that might make them seem like a threat. Here's the thing though, if a mage seeks to join the Grey Wardens, then that mage must take the Joining. It isn't like the Wardens are just some safe haven. The mage has to take the risk and do the job... which also means no political actions. Believe it! (talk) 16:05, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Reading it, it says that the Wardens have a policy of recruiting one mage per circle but now that policy has been violated. and yeah I should have mentioned that, that's also referenced as to how it's a death wish, but the recruits don't exactly know about the joining beforehand or what awaits them does it, in regards to certain death for some. Lazare326 16:08, September 17, 2014 (UTC)
One mage per circle does not include apostates remember, since the majority of mages who abandoned the circle have since been classed as apostates (presumably) its a safe bet to say that the apostates are free to take the joining. That and wardens hold the right of conscription. But again, the wardens have been a safe haven of sorts for those seeking refuge away from politics, as we see (kind of) in Wardens Keep and awakening. The Wardens may well be harboring mages and templars alike, pretending they are officially wardens, simply to keep them safe. I can see that being a possibility despite the wardens rule of staying out of matters non-darkspawn, since the events in origins and depending on whether or not a high ranking warden is a mage. Even more possible if they were a mage who grew up in the circle, could even be a templar rather than a mage. At the very least, someone who has intricate knowledge of the mages plight/war/fall. DeakialSig1 19:04, September 17, 2014 (UTC)
I was referring to the policy before the circles broke up. Nonetheless, the fact that they could be recruiting a mass amount of mages, could lead to a sense of antagonistic attitudes from Templars and the Inquisition alike. Wardens are supposed to be neutral, and though they may say this is form of action has nothing to do with the current MvT war, others may not see it in that way and may see it as a breach of warden neutrality. Lazare326 19:13, September 17, 2014 (UTC)
I thought that policy was the Wardens can recruit one mage per circle per visit and they obviously try not to visit too often to avoid antagonizing anyone.

But back to the topic at hand, it certainly seems plausible that the Wardens would welcome the opportunity to bolster their ranks by accepting a few mages who felt joining the Grey Wardens was safer than participating in the war. Its not inconievable that some Templars might not be convinced those mages commitment to the wardens is genuine and try to apprehend them. Just like when the Templars tried to capture Anders after he joined the Wardens in awakening. That isn't even including the Red Templars, who if they are anything like Meredith was at the end, are probably not even likely to try negotiating beforehand. -120.149.113.197 (talk) 04:14, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

I always thought the whole "warden only recruits two mages" thing was just an statistic, not an actual policy... --Galvao18 (talk)

Technically Grey Warden mages are usually outside Templar jurisdiction, even if they split from the chantry, plus, the Templars would have to be crazy to attack a Grey Warden base considering that Wardens are recruited based on high standards of skill and ability. In regards to the interference question, yeah, I agree people in Thedas will see a increase in Warden mages as interfering, but in actuality the Wardens are supposed to be neutral in any conflict that doesn't concern Darkspawn, although some individual Wardens, especially mages will take part or leave the Wardens to fight. Welshman15 (talk) 14:29, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

As far as Last Flight is concerned, those mages didn't actually become Wardens, though they might after the events of the book. And it states that First Warden is only offering them sanctuary for now and not making them Wardens until he sees how it affects politics. Though they also allow some Templars to seek sanctuary as well and even had one go through the Joining. So I'd definitely say the Wardens are interfering to a degree, but it will be interesting to see how it turns out in Inquisition. SenjiBen (talk) 00:48, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

Long time lurker, first time poster here....I'm wondering if perhaps the Wardens could become something similar to the FFL (Frech Foreign Legion), where one is accepted regardless of past affiliation, criminal history, etc, but is still technically under the jurisdiction of another power. This would allow the chantry, and the Templars to sort of "write off" apostates and those who buck the system, while still keeping them in a controlled and cohesive unit, the trick is...instead of everyone having to learn French, everyone has to undergo the joining.Darthlucky (talk) 05:19, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

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