Hey forum/DA bros. So I've been hammering at DA:O, trying to attain the best possible ending for all parties involved, so that when DA:2 arrives I get to have a better world. Let me see if I got this right.
Origin: Dwarven Commoner, gets declared a Paragon. In love with Morrigan, so I get her ring/dialogue. Also in love with Leliana, epic glitch.
Behlen is King of Orzammar, kept the Golems. Dagna joined the Circle, told the Chantry dwarf to fuck off.
Lanaya is the Keeper of the elves.
Mages secured in Tower under Chantry, but i helped the Mage's collective.
Alister is hardened and married to Anora, and Loghain is a Warden. So I ended up with this:
Alister and Anora are epic rulers, loved by their people.
Dalish get their land, there is tension but peace.
Dwarves moving forward under Behlen, and my boon was to send troops to help them. They push back the darkspawn. Branka sort of revolts (but hey, she's still killing darkspawn with her fortress/golems, which is the main idea.) They also have a new circle of Magi in Orzammar. (this one I'm a little unsure of, also with the Chantry quest)
Teagan married the chick who gives you the sword from Redcliffe, and does a good job running the place.
The Chantry shows people where Andraste's ashes are.
Zevran stays. Sten leaves. Shale goes to kill darkspawn. Wynne stays to advise alister, Oghren (awakening so...) and Loghain becomes a recruiter. Leliana stays with my character (whom she loves) and Morrigan does what she will (I did indeed make the OGB) and I got the ring dialogue.
Denerim is rebuilt quickly, and the elves were granted noble status.
SO! Bros. Tell me, did I miss anything? If you think there's a way I can POSSIBLY make my ending better, let me know. I'm getting OCD about this.
- Just curious, but how did your get to have Alister AND Loghain? I didn't think thatwas possible. RangerWT (talk) 20:12, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
- A hardened Alistair will still leave the party but marry Anora if you spare Loghain. Gruedragon (talk) 20:15, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
It's Your Thing --- WarPaint (talk) 20:18, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
If you harden Alister, he will leave the Wardens for good. But he will take up the Crown and marry Anora, if you ya political marriage is a good thing. Just keep reminding him of the promise he made to marry Anora and it will work. Plus Loghain is basically him.
By "secured the mages under the chantry" do you mean you sided with the templars, because that is a bad ending.--Yash7 (talk) 20:22, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
- This. Greagoir basically implies that those mages you had imprisoned will be tortured and executed by the Chantry ("They'll all be questioned... among other things...")--DarkAger (talk) 20:28, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
No, Irving said "everything that could possibly be saved, had been." I did not Annul the chantry.
So let me get this straight....If I harden Alistair and make him king and choose to make Loghain a warden...Alistair will still take the crown? Or do I have to marry him to Anora??? I do now that if I make Loghain a warden that Alistair will leave the party for good. Cause I would rather make Alistair then Anora. Ever since she betrayed me when I rescued her from the castle and she betrayed me during the rescue I have had kinda a hatred towards her....Speaking of endings. I am currently playing as a female dalish elf in a romance with Zevran. At the end if i choose to go back to my clan will Zev come with me or not? Emmalee (talk) 20:34, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
That is correct.
The Magi Origin might be a bit better for this. Unless you play a mage and gain more freedom for the Circle as your boon the new Circle in Orzammar might lead to an Exalted March against the dwarves (the Epilogue will say the Divine is considering it). --Aedan Cousland (talk) 21:25, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Since we've been told "the Chantry is in tatters" in DA2, the Divine might have bigger concerns on her mind than what the dwarves are doing.--DarkAger (talk) 22:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
- Unless the dwarves turning against the Chantry is part of the reason they're in tatters to start with. --Aedan Cousland (talk) 14:03, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
Origin: Noble human, male, has become a prince-consort.
Behlen is King of Orzammar, golems destroyed. Dagna and the Chantry dwarf to fuck off.
Dalish elves were killed by werewolves.
Redcliffe was never rebuild after the massacre.
Isolda is killed for ritual.
All mages were killed by the warden.
The ashes were destroyed, the dragon is alive - she killed a lot of stupid chantry pilgrims.
Denerim elves were killed for blood ritual, and got no help in future.
And my about "team":
- Alistair - killed by Anora
- Lili - killed by the warden, trying to protect the ashes
- Morrigan - left the group twice - after wild lands and after canceling the ritual. Killed in dlc.
- Sten - left behind, to be eaten by darkspawn
- Wynn - killed, trying to protect mages
- Ogren - killed in awaking in the keep, in origins just left the group
- Zevran - killed in first meeting
- Loghain - was died, when he killed the archdemon
But - we with Anora are beloved rulers too.
My epiloge is much better then yours, he-he. 91.192.191.221 (talk) 21:36, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
Are you kidding? That is the WORST ending ever!--Yash7 (talk) 22:17, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
- That depends on the perspectives, others may think this could be the best ending. --Hyron (talk) 22:26, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
True, but his their warden still sounds mean XD!--Yash7 (talk) 22:49, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
How did you beat the game?! YOU HAVE NO PARTY!
- He didn't kill all of then on the same time..., by the endgame i belive he had Dog, Loghain on his party. --Hyron (talk) 00:32, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
Mokho18 14:27, September 26, 2010 (UTC)HOLY!!! MAN!! what has gone into you that is probably THE WORST ENDING EVER!! i mean come on!!! you killed all of your party members, spared the guy who betrayed our king and the wardens (helped the darkspawn more likely), killed the elves who are not that mean, helped a blood mage, destroyed the circle of magi, put bhelen who's an ass on the throne, destroyed redcliffe, killed your best friend (ALISTAIR), AND destroyed the ashes of prophet andraste... HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT!? :P mokho18 (mokho18) 5:32 pm september 26 2010
My Best ending:
My Warden: My Female Human Noble warden marries (Hardened) Alistair and keeps a (Hardened) Leliana on as her lesbian mistress.
Bhelen is made the ruler of orzammar since Harrowmont turns out to be a crappy leader, as well both the golems and the anvil are destroyed. Also a Chantry is started in the drawven city.
The Mages are all kept alive and are not all slaughtered by the templars.
Sacred ashes are kept Kolgrim and his cultists are killed. The High dragon is killed and the sacred ashes are made into a mecca for pilgrims by the chantry.
Dalish elves are left alive and Zathrine is killed while removing the curse. Lanaya is made the keeper. Dalish elves are given respect for fighting in the final battle
The City Elves are not made slaves.
Anora is put into prison and Loghain is killed.
Redcliffe survives, connor and lady Isolde live.
As for my compaions: Wynne stays as a court/advisor mage. Sten goes back home and Zeveran stays. Morrigan gets to perform her ritual with Alistar. Alistar is made the king of Fereldan and marries my warden, while Leliana stays in a romance with my warden as her lesbian mistress.
--69.179.245.153 (talk) 05:03, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
That ending sounds awesome! Ihave somthing similar, but, I thought that Harrowmont was going to be a good leader. WRONG! Also, I have no side love.RhiannonCousland (talk) 10:56, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
My best possible ending
Human noble male, saved Conner, saved lady Islode redcliffe survived, the dalish lived, bhelen become king, created golums zevran killed, sten left, the mages lived, Lil left done the dark ritual with morrigan archdemon died Alister king logain Dead,oghran lived in awaking, kept the father alive or so hes called, savied the keep burned amaranthine, killed the mother killed the harvester, met morrigan went with morrigan to prepare for what is to come.....( i cant think of anything else) --AverageDan (talk) 10:28, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
To let lady Islode live is the worst thing possible in Da:O/A. She needs to be killed. All Redkliff knights, all those who turned undead, all citizens of village - her fault. 91.192.191.221 (talk) 15:07, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
For payback, you can kill Connor so that Isolde can live the rest of her life (until she dies of childbirth) in misery instead of doing what she wanted, which was to sacrifice herself. Deathoflife (talk) 12:23, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
Agree, it's fine too. And a good variant for mage warden - to kill Isolde in ritual and sell Connor to demon for something useful. Stupid Isolde will die for nothing. 91.192.191.221 (talk) 12:30, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
I strongly believe that this topic can become difficult to confirm because much of the Dragon Age world is very gray, not black and white. In terms of the choices, you have multiple options:
-In terms of royalty, Bhelen is definitely not the morally correct choice because he is a kinslayer. However, he does a great job moving Orzammar forward whereas Harrowmont does not. Yet, if you say that you'll help Bhelen get the throne and betray him to choose Harrowmont, the ending is different. Harrowmont doesn't wither away but pretty much removes most contact with the surface world. However, if you preserve the Anvil, he orders it to be forbidden to use after the spirit mishap whereas Bhelen forces others to be sacrificed to make use of the anvil (I think).
-Dagna joining the circle is definitely a good deed, I believe and I never try to help the Chantry dwarf because he gets killed afterwards and I don't like that. So telling him to f*** off seems the best for him. If you side with the Templars, Cullen becomes a very strict Knight Commander and brings a massive amount of discipline to the mages. Yet, if you side with the mages, all that could have been saved in the circle has been saved. Still, a bit gray.
-Lanaya being keeper seems to be a better overall choice because she brings reasoning when tensions get tough between her people and the humans.
-Hardening all of the party members seems to always be a good idea and as for Morrigan's ritual, that is where things get really gray. What will be the result of this ritual? Will it have a good or bad effect? Sure the Warden and Alistair/Logain lives, but for how long and does it matter?
-As for the ruler of Ferelden...I have created a forum strictly revolving this because I am not completely sure myself. I believe that the best choice for Ferelden is to have Alistair and Anora rule together yet then you come to terms with what both of them wants, Alistair would rather be with someone he loves (if you have hardened him) and stay with the Wardens and Anora would rather see Alistair dead than alive. Anora does a great job rebuilding Ferelden but Alistair becomes loved by the people from all races. I believe Logain has lived long past his prime and after all of the crap he's done, I see no further use for him living as a hero especially when the Warden inherits that title after the game not to mention that the Warden also becomes the recruiter for newer wardens afterward. However, it's all based on one's perspective. I have chosen multiple endings to keep things different. All seem to have interesting affects.--Fantasyeve87 03:08, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
That is incorrect, Bhelen actually orders the anvil to be forbidden and even sends out troops against Branka to try and stop her, and fails due to the golems. Harrowmont however does the exact opposite and allows the capturing of elves and humans to be sacrificed on the anvil. Maybe your ending is different because you betrayed your original choice? Desmond Cousland (talk) 10:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
No no no you're both sort of right. If you destroy the anvil, both kings will outlaw its use after it is rebuilt and the first golem made goes on a killing spree. Bhelen DOES outlaw the anvil, but only after Branka refuses to make golems only for him, instead of for Orzammar as a whole. But he eventually lets up the siege. I like this option, because there aren't any darkspawn to worry about where the siege is, and Branka gets a fortress. As for Harrowmont, there are two endings for him. One, if you destroy the anvil, he withers and dies, and there's a civil war afterwards. The other, yes, he kidnaps surfacers, and there's a war fought and Orzammar is cut off.Rathian Warrior (talk) 18:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
The best possible ending for the dwarves is indeed Bhelen since he is such a refreshing turn from the do good-get good theory....I mean to get Bhelen on the thorne you need to sacrifice morals and do all sorts of bad stuff, and spread lies...yet, once he is crowned, Orzammar flourishes as never before....on the other hand if you're honest and help Harrowmont, Orzammar suffers.....hats off to the folks at Bioware for this quest...it's the only one, with an unexpected result, like real life..IP no. 59.95.169.10 (talk) 18:27, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
To Desmond Cousland, it is possible that I have some of my facts a little confused. I am just going on one playthrough where I betrayed Bhelen. I don't completely remember the epilogue. However, overall, I know that Bhelen moves Orzammar forward and that could be important for the ever changing world.--Fantasyeve87 22:36, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
My perfect possible ending of my character Azreal Cousland on the Noble Orgin in DA:Orgins is in redcliff save connor,the people from the dead,isolde alive as well as eamon,defeating the dragon and passed the tests of the Disiple of Andraste have the the urn of sacred ashes,brother genitivi spreading the word of the urn and the story of andraste to the chantry, Saving the mages and kill uldred,freeing the curse of the elves and werewolves and doing every side quest from them,in Orzammar betray bhelen,harrowmot as the king,preserve the anvil meaning destroying and oh have shale on your quest on orzammar is very important because shale he/she was a dwarf as being the first woman volunteered to give its life to protect orzammar as a golem,dagna in the circle of magi,saving the city from slavers from denerim also doing every side quest there as well,kill arl rendon howe,free the prisoners ACCEPT urien the original arl of denerim,kill loghain,que en anora marries Alistair as the king of ferelden,do every friend quest of all your companions,go to ostagar kill the darkspawn there,recover the armor of cailan,maric shield and sword,documents of the orlesian allegiance send orlais warden but also kill the ogre that killed cailan and duncan to also recover duncans sword and dagger,give the duncan shield to alistair hidden in denerim,save solders peak,let avernus live and convince him to use his research to help the wardens and thedas,do the ritual with morrigan,kill the archdemon and then FINALLY YOU HAVE YOUR PERFECT ENDING. P.S:do evey side quest from the chanter board,mage collectors and Blackstone irregulars!! And from every place in Ferelden
User:JP101600 may,23 2014
It really is all a matter of perspective and all subjective. But, I honestly think destroying the Anvil and killing Branka is best. I also don't believe in letting a Circle be built in Orzammar. It seems useless to me. And, from what I can tell, you has the mages killed, so....NutMeg29 (talk) 01:00, May 28, 2014 (UTC)