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Hello there.

Initially posted to Loleil but she hasn't showed up since September.

If you remember not too long ago instead of that "fan feed" at the bottom of a page the wikia used to show up related pages to the one you were reading, matched through categories. I think that was very important feature as people could follow-up the links and read much more material which garnered many many extra page views, views which under different circumstances we wouldn't get.

Instead we now have this fan feed which except it is visually horrid and unattractive, it also links to some random blogs of ambiguous value in different Fandoms. Personally I don't think most visitors of the Dragon Age Wikia would be looking to read about Fantastic Four and not about Dragon Age.

I also know that most wikia features are optional and we have a certain amount of control on what we want to implement and what not. If this feature is optional don't you think it's in our wiki's best interests to take it down? Viktoria Landers 19:11, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it's not something we can remove. It's built into this whole "fandom by wikia" thing that they're emphasizing and we couldn't take it off even if we wanted to. I agree with you that it's ugly and extraneous, but there's a lot wikia's been doing lately that I don't agree with. Smiley Kelcat Talk 19:20, November 4, 2017 (UTC)
Such a shame. I suspect you guys are being contacted from time to time by wikia's staff to provide feedback. Would it be possible to send your feelings about this matter? I know they hear from time to time so it's worth a try. Viktoria Landers 19:47, November 4, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, that thing is incredibly annoying. It never formats and displays properly!

-Seekers of Truth heraldryHD3 (Talk) 08:06, November 8, 2017 (UTC)

I contacted them about at least making it smaller, but I don't have high hopes. I'm far more upset by this new Video Program. I'm in the process of finding out if it's mandatory, but I have a feeling it is. And since we're consistently ranked within the top 200, we're going to be part of it. Kelcat Talk 02:28, November 16, 2017 (UTC)

This video program doesn't seem appealing I agree. What's your concerns on it, by the way? In other news I made a thread here to discuss the matter. Didn't expect to find much interest at the Central. Now I'll use the Contact feature to present my case as well.
I really believe that getting the "See More" feature back will substantially increase our total page views per month. Viktoria Landers 10:44, November 16, 2017 (UTC)
Believe me, I agree with you, but wikia's turning into a much different site than it used to. It's all about fandom and socialization over providing enclycopedic info. As for the videos: They're large and right at the top of the articles, taking up an ungodly amount of space and push the text and infoboxes of the article down so far that it's not even visible on smaller screens without scrolling. They're set to autoplay, with no way to universally disable that. Users can manually disable it for 2 weeks at a time, but that's all. A lot of the videos scroll down with you, which is extremely annoying. People with low bandwidth or slow internet (or cheap-ass laptops like myself) experience massive slowdowns, to the point of almost not being fuctional. Other wikis have complained about the quality of videos produced for them, the main issue being pronunciations (can you imagine someone not familiar with DA trying to pronounce Dalish words?). And the bottom line is that these are advertisements disguised as "helpful" videos. I get wikia needs to make money, but I don't agree with how they're going about it.
I did verify that it's mandatory, so when they do finally contact us directly, we can start discussions about whether we want to actively participate or let them take care of it all. Kelcat Talk 00:08, November 17, 2017 (UTC)
Is this thing the reason these stupid videos keep playing at the top of the articles now?

-Seekers of Truth heraldryHD3 (Talk) 11:49, November 16, 2017 (UTC)

It's not set up on this wiki yet, so I'm not sure. I use adblocker so I don't see any of the ads now. Kelcat Talk 00:08, November 17, 2017 (UTC)
Advertisements should not be autoplaying (with sound at least). You can report that to FANDOM via Special:Contact/bad-ad & they can usually get those removed.
Regarding videos; as someone who loves Dragon Age & reads this Wiki a lot, please do not let them write the scripts. Wikis have the option to write the scripts themselves as a community, so absolutely take advantage of that every step of the way to at least steer them in the right direction. Even better, if anyone can find good Dragon Age videos on YouTube that are acceptable to the standards of the Wiki, there’s the off-chance that the video team can be convinced to use those good-quality YouTube videos instead of the ones they make at least some of the time. Whenever anyone finds videos that are bad, or outright wrong, absolutely do not be silent. Use Special:Contact to make sure that every time they make a bad video, they know it, because I have seen Wikis such as RuneScape & Fallout raise a massive fuss when FANDOM forced bad videos on them, & they were willing to bend & remake a great many of them after enough outcry. I really, really hope that the videos that will eventually be made for this Wiki are good, but if past trends continue then more than a few of them may not be. Use your status as a large Wiki to get the most effort out of FANDOM as is possible. Don’t accept accept anything less than the best.
UrsuulTalkVanguardDate1:10 AM Friday, November 17, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Ursuul for the heads up, I searched for the relevant controversy and found the following links, which are worth checking out: 1 - 2 - 3

Considering Fallout wikia which has way stronger negotiating power than us due to its larger, more active and involved editor base cannot effectivelly persuade the staff about the forced changes they seek to implement, I highly doubt we can say 'no' to anything they shove down our throats.

I guess it's only a matter of time before we'll start see fan-made videos auto-playing at the top of Alistair or War table pages. Viktoria Landers 09:01, November 17, 2017 (UTC)