I wonder if we will see the return of red lyrium in DA3 or maybe find out about its origins, and why it makes everyone batshit insane? What do you think is in store for red lyrium? 203.45.127.20 (talk) 04:09, August 1, 2012 (UTC)Darkside

I can see DA3 picking up and telling us a few things we should have learned in DA2, at least to make some of the absurdities of DA2 posthumously make sense. Red Lyrium being one of them. Tommyspa (talk) 05:11, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

I really really doubt we'll be hearing any satisfactory explanation about it. The DA writers have a crapload of balls in the air at the moment, with new more mysterious stuff being introduced in every other installment of the franchise. There are so many questions that need to be answered that I doubt they'll answer any of them, or if they're even capable of answering them.
TBH I've always felt that what they do is they make up mysterious stuff as they go along without thinking too far in the future, until stuff gets out of hand, and they realise that they cannot explain everything satisfactorily. Then they start retconning stuff and reinterpreting events. In short, bad writing. Diain (talk) 07:02, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

We have seen five varieties of lyrium: Liquid potions, blue crystals, red crystals, a red ore, and a dull bronze-colored metal referred to as "pure" lyrium. You could assume they each have special properties or significance, but I'm inclined to believe there is nothing special about any of them. Rather, it's quite reminiscent of the varieties of any metal you find on earth. Respectively: Dissolved in liquid, part of a crystal compound, part of some other crystal compound, part of a very impure heterogenous mixture of elements, and pure metal. Maybe one of the writers was cognizant of the fact that a metallic element can be found in many forms, or they had thoughts on what each form meant, or they weren't thinking at all and just made what looked cool. As far as why everyone in that thaig went crazy, as well as anyone who spent too long with the idol, I'm inclined to say, "demons did it." 66.214.169.204 (talk) 07:41, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Diain, sounds a little like Lost. :P I too think some of the mysteries they introduced are beyond explanation or realisation.

As per the red lyrium, I hope they have a really good explanation. Connected to the mystery of the red lyrium idol is the primeval thaig - why were there golems - if the thaig was not in contact with Caridin, why the thaig was abandoned, and the general story of the dwarves who lived within. Maybe Kal-Sharok holds the answers. Henio0 (talk) 14:37, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Or maybe the writers just went "Eh, the player kills shades every 5 minutes, and darkspawn were done to death in Origins. Let's add golems and possessed rocks for no reason whatsoever!"Avg Man (talk) 17:52, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

I have few theories. According to one of them blue lyrium comes from spirits and red from demons. Another theory: blue lyrium is the red one with many minerals, if red one is pure, the it's far more powerful, enough to affect dwarves. 3rd theory: Dwarves of primeval thaig were so evil that their evil aura corrupted lyrium,m aking it red and more powerful. A portion of red lyrium equals millions of same portions of blue one im magical power.