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- To answer the question, the new game is not related to DA, but is a new game tentatively titled Project Eternity. Here's a link:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity ----Isolationistmagi 18:26, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
The link at the bottom of this post was posted my Dragon Age's twitter page. It talks about the possibility that Obsidian's new RPG could be the next Dragon Age game, passed to them by Bioware. More than likely it's not but I thought some here may like to read it. The part where they talk about Dragon Age is quoted below and below that is the actual link to it.
"As you may already know, Bioware and Obsidian have a nice relationship where Bioware has entrusted a few of its franchises to Obsidian for them to develop sequels for. When I first saw the Ouroboros (dragon eating its own tail), I automatically thought this may be a sequel to Bioware’s incredible 2005 Asian-inspired RPG, Jade Empire. However, that was until I read the text below the picture.
The name “Eir Glanfath” automatically sounded to me like a name from another more recent franchise from Bioware, Dragon Age. Dragon Age 2 was met with mixed feelings so it may be that Bioware could be handing off the next game, which we already know is in development, to Obsidian. After seeing the picture I found when I went to the site, my suspicions went way up. Of course there is a dragon, but the biggest clue to me was something much more subtle. In the last line of the picture it simply says, “Digging for truth burries the seeker.” Those of you familiar with Dragon Age will recognize the seeker that was digging for truth in Dragon Age 2 about the events that culminate in Dragon Age 3, with the Chantry and Circle broken and chaos running amuck. I strongly believe this could be Obsidian’s new game."
http://gamersyndrome.com/2012/video-games/what-obsidians-new-rpg/
The Dread Wolf 16:30, September 11, 2012
My mind has been blown, and I hope you have a good day because of it. Dabuddah (talk) 22:39, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
I doubt that DA3 will be given to Obsidian. Bioware still has something to prove with DA and I'm almost positive they are going to try and prove that with DA3. NWN franchise and the Old republic franchise was given to Obsidian because Bioware wanted to make it's own franchises in the form of Dragon Age and Mass Effect. It doesn't seem like Bioware has moved on from DA yet. If Obsidian does work with Bioware on a DA game, it'll most likely be a spin off. But I honestly doubt it to be true. Though Chris Avellone coming up with an awesome story would trump anything David Gaider could come up with. I have a feeling that picture has to do with the Wheels of Time rpg Obsidian is working on and not a DA game.--Vincent Cousland (talk) 22:46, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
http://www.obsidianent.com/ thought I'd throw that out there. Ouroboros is actually in many ways an appropriate symbol for DA, given the theme of repetition present in it's lore. Mages and Templars have been at odds for millenia, the darkspawn are a recurring threat that always happen in much the same way, the chantry repeatedly calls exalted marches against its opposition, and of course Flemeth has her immortality thing. And the elves have twice formed nations only to have them crushed and their people scattered to the winds. I find the symbol very appropriate for DA, and the character in the middle looks suspiciously like a 3. I'm prepared to believe the game is DAIII. I won't be surprised if it isn't, but then I won't be surprised if it is. ----Isolationistmagi 22:50, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
If this happens to be true, the good news will be bioware can't muck up again (or won't get the blame for mucking up [however, EA will likely still spread its darkness]) and there will be good emphasis on story and characters, which I felt Obsidian has always done well. However, the bad news is it WILL be buggy as hell. Mark my words. No matter how much I like the games Obsidian makes from other franchises, their games always come first to mind in terms of bugs, glitches, and crashes. But I think I will survive, as I always have. Crimpycracker (talk) 22:52, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
No...it's not DA3. Maybe something similar to Origins though perhaps, which has me excited since no one thinks those types of games can sell anymore for some reason. I mean DAO only sold about five million copies...paltry compared to DA2's 2 million obviously...No...it's not DA related I think. And whatever any of us thought of either game, Bioware really does deserve the chance to make it better. Though I will admit, for just a second, I thought it possible for pure financial reasons, but even with the TOR debacle and rumors of EA looking for a buyout and all, I just don't think the financial situation is bad enough just yet to warrant this type of move. It has to be something else. The Grey Unknown (talk) 22:57, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
I know for a fact it's not the next Dragon Age considering the big "4" in the middle of the Ouroboros. If it was DA3, it would be a 3. The best guess right now is that it's going to be Dungeon Siege 4 considering this would make it the FOURTH game in the series. Aleksandr the Great (talk) 00:34, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
Here's this.
It's not DA. Have no idea myself, maybe someone else is familiar with it. The Grey Unknown (talk) 00:46, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I should have known better then to let my hopes get up. Still though. New RPG. Maybe it is the wheel of time game. Or something entirely new. Crimpycracker (talk) 01:29, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
If any factor in making DA3 needs to be removed, it's EA, not Bioware but sadly I don't see that happening. I don't think EA will stop until they've ruined gaming entirely.
Aleksandr, what are you talking about? The link I saw, it was a 3, not a 4. Not saying it's DA3, but the number in the Ouroboros is definitely a 3.
Crimpycracker, whether this is DA3 or not, I believe DA3 will be be buggy as hell too. After all, it's a DA game. Programming things correctly is clearly not their strong suit. All the patches and they never bothered fixing Jowan's Chanter's Board mission, Shale's absence post coronation, The Reaper's Cudgel, Vigilance, the Sentinel Armor, most of Awakening or the numerous other bugged items and quests in both games. I know they fixed a few (unfortunately including the fetch quest xp/money trick in DA2) but there were still so many left. Many of which were more important than some things they did fix. --Vampire Damian (talk) 08:32, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
No. Bioware needs a good reputation lifter, after ME3 and DA2, giving their games to another studio is almost like digging their own grave. Introduce a bit of Anarchy (talk) 08:40, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
Well, it's a counter thingy so the announcement's on Friday, right? All in all, not DA. Fantasy sounding words, unfortunately not Fallout 4 either. Cross my fingers for a new title, not next "Dungeon Siege". Also, forget previous Bioware-Obsidian cooperation - it's EA now, and EA doesn't lease its cash cows. Dorquemada (talk) 09:13, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
Well, until Friday when it's revealed what the game is we can still speculate. Although I doubt it will be DA related it would be interesting if it was. So I'll post the quote that's on the site today. This page shows the number 2 proving that it is a countdown and below it is this quote:
"I recognize your pain. Your kind must learn it comes from straining against the turning of the world. It spins thus. You cannot stop it. One day you will wake up. You will stop pulling. The pain will be gone. Until then, all your waking hours are suffering."
If a person was looking for DA connections it's not hard to find them within that saying you can be more open-minded and see that it could be something else. Either way, the quotes alone is getting me interested in what this is be it DA or not. The Dread Wolf 12:45, September 12, 2012
I hope not, Neverwinter Nights 2 was awful because of Obsidian. --Elshiro (talk) 22:25, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
I doubt it's DA3 myself. And if it was, Obsidian making it is a guaranteed no-sale for me, seeing what they did with Neverwinter Nights 2 and Fallout: New Vegas. Gruedragon (talk) 00:02, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
An update: As of 21:16 GMT, the Obsidian site shows a `1` and says: This world wants to drag us down, it does. It made you a Watcher. No one asks for that. And the weight, that guilt they want to hang around my neck, you don't have to carry it one more step. You think they won't let you rest, but it's not up to them. It never was. Doesn't sound like DA3 to me, though I'd be absolutely thrilled if it was. I personally loved New Vegas, KotOR2 and NWN2 - and I reckon that one thing that might improve Bioware after the seriously bad rap they've had recently would be Obsidian helping them. Doesn't look likely to be though. Anyone got any ideas on what it could be? A lot of people have been throwing `Wheel of Time` and `Eternity` around, but I've never really heard of either. TheTeaMustFlow (talk) 20:23, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
Wheel of Time is a series of fantasy novels by Robert Jordan. Obsidian announced last year(It might have been the year before) that they began development on a Wheel of Time rpg. They're almost done with the South Park rpg so it's entirely likely that they are going to announce that. It could also be another Dungeon Siege too. Either way, I'm looking forward to it. Obsidian like CD Projekt Red love making games aren't a greedy company. Those are two companies that deserve fan support since they actually show loyalty to us. Obsidian unfortunately doesn't have the same skilled QA team that CD Projekt Red has so they get a lot of hate from ingrates. I'll always support them though.--Vincent Cousland (talk) 21:19, September 13, 2012 (UTC)
- As far as relatively big names go, I feel that virtually any publishers aside from EA and Activision are worth supporting. That being said, I am still pretty bleak with Obsidian for selling Dungeon Siege to Square Enix though, since they completely ruined it!! Also heard NWN2 was not that great... The only game that I heard most people enjoyed was FO:NV. Hopefully they have learned some lessons regarding their LOtR (related) rpgs!
- NWN2 and Mask of the Betrayer were basically the DA:O (and its DLC) beta. Similar set pieces, concepts, and themes run through both. That said, NWN2 is possibly one of Obsidian's worst storytelling failures (which is crushing because MotB is one of their best successes). Of course, everything Obsidian makes is horrifically buggy and/or half finished because of management problems and Peter Molyneux styled ambitions (although they are getting better). You kind of have to excuse that as part of the cost of entry.
- That said, Obsidian is basically the best company in the world at writing English language games. They're mediocre at actually making games to match the quality of that writing but they do have some strokes of genius when it comes to integrating the game and their writing into a cohesive narrative.WorstClassic (talk) 07:33, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
After watching that video, I'll say it again that Obsidian deserves support. You can really see that they care about making games for fans. Its a freaking shame people give such an honest and good company so much crap. I honestly can't wait for this game to come out. The fact that Chris Avellone can write a story with no restrictions is going to make this as good or even better than Planescape and Mask of the Betrayer. Obsidian(Who is better at story telling, dialogue and characters) is like Bioware before they became owned by EA. Obsidian is going to make a game for the people who loved DA:O, Baldur's Gate, NWN2 etc and I honestly can't wait!--Vincent Cousland (talk) 20:52, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
Mmmm....interesting concept if nothing else. I mean removing the publisher from a game is pretty gutsy nowadays. And that would be like a wet dream here with Bioware at this point.... I'll throw em some cash based on moxie and concept alone. Good luck guys. The Grey Unknown (talk) 23:27, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
Holy Hell, never before has the saying "Shutup & Take My Money!" been more - literally - relevant!! 85.210.139.164 (talk) 00:20, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
An update. The new RPG is called 'Project Eternity'. So no Wheel of Time, Dragon age 3 or a new NWN. For information; click this link: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity?ref=city --83.160.24.222 (talk) 07:32, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
Oh my friggin soul... I know that this is no longer relevant to Dragon Age specifically, but it is to RPGs in general. In light of the epic scope of this project, the bravery that Obsidian have for putting this out there, the need in the gaming industry for a game like this as well as for striking out from under publishers in order to make the best game possible and finally for the support that this project requires, I would like to request that this thread be allowed to remain here.
Guys... this is it. We really should support this project. Imagine Bioware striking out from under EA games to make a project like this!! I would like to encourage everyone to donate. They require $1.1million since they are not going through publishers, who do not typically fund such games. DSepending on your pledge package, you can get stuff like copies of the game, dlc and if you go big, have some level of input towards the game. PLEASE GUYS, I normally heavily resent being asked to donate for ANYTHING but this project truly deserves it!! Ccg08 (talk) 07:46, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
This is already funded. Got an email as soon as they crossed the 1.1 million mark. That happened really fast. And more importantly, it should be a message to Bioware. People still do like the type of games you used to make. So much so a lot of us are willing to give you money BEFORE you even make the game. The Grey Unknown (talk) 00:45, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent news! I am pleased to see that they also have implementations should they reach further financial milestones. In other words, while they have reached their minimum goal, they still require more to take the game further and build on its potential. Ccg08 (talk) 08:13, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
