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Alistair Anora Inquisition
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Loghain Inquisition
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ENJOY DISCUSSStar Metal Knight (talk) 01:40, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

That camera angle makes Alistair's nose look a little big. -HD3 Sig 01:46, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

So... we finally see Alistair and Anora rendered in frostbite 3... And, was that loghain standing all solo without any grey in his hair? DeakialSig1 01:52, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Also...Boobs.


Naughty naughty naughty... It's like that Jonathan Coulton song. Also, at least Alistair looks better then he did in DA2... so there's that. Crimpycracker (talk) 01:59, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Where did you find these images? Graf Gaius (talk) 02:13, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Damn, I knew some redesign will be inevitable due to many reasons, but... noone old looks like they old themselves. Anora, who applied your make up? Or are you blushing because you finally met the Inquisitor? Also, I must say that I just love the censor on that romance scene. And now I just want my game and romance the hell out of everyone at once. --Margerard is a Dragon Age Wiki Editor 02:34, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

You should put spoilers in the title at least though I already saw these. Some reviewer on a neogaf DAI Review thread posted some of these, especially the one of Cass Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 02:40, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

If they use that censor in-game... I'd be Ok with that.--Lurooke Surana (talk) 03:44, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Sooooo..... Anora...

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Ehhhh. ;_; Well, I did request that they not make her ugly, and... she's not ugly. She's not pretty either, but at least she's not ugly. Maybe this is what she looks like after being married to Alistair for 10 years. Maybe she'll look better having been married to the Hero King of Ferelden. :D

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... Yeah probably not. ;_; I don't know, maybe she looks okay. Maybe it's the hair. I think her hairline is too high. Her forehead looks more like a fivehead now. Her face looks skinny. Maybe the makeup or lighting is messing things up. But what the heck happened to her boobs? Also, what is she wearing? But yeah, the boobs are just... not there. No cleavage? Is that because of the dress? It seems open in the front, or is that cloth that is the color of her skin? What is going on there? I'll see for myself in week or so. I guess she looks good for being forty-ish.

Loghain's design is unacceptable. He looks BETTER than he did in Origins, which is just flat out impossible. He shouldn't even be alive according to the epilogue. His advanced age made him weaker against the taint, and he succumbs to it within a few years. So yeah, I reject this, but in my playthroughs he's always dead anyway. So, no big deal.

I'm glad Cassandra was redesigned to be decent looking in the facial area. I like her statement about being a protector and lover. I don't mind patting myself on the back for calling this way back when she was first confirmed as a romance. It was always my intention to have my mage romance her and have a guardian/judge theme with her, as if she's my mage's personal templar, ready to defend him or kill him. The story has a much greater impact with a mage.

Also the male kossith looks goofy. Probably will never play as a male kossith. Believe it! (talk) 03:53, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Except of course that the epilogue never actually put a figure on how many years Loghain survived after the Blight. Granted I've only heard someone use "several" to mean a decade a few times in my life but still not an actual contradiction of said epilogue. Not to mention I don't recall anyone ever going in depth about how the taint affects the Grey Wardens physical appearance until it actually gets to the point they start turning into ghouls. I mean Duncan was just about to go on his calling right before ostagar and the guy still looked incredible. The taint doesn't actually seem to accelerate the aging process in anyway. Unless you just mean graphics wise in which case...engine differences I guess?

Also, "The story has a much greater impact with a mage." don't think you're kind of leaping ahead a bit there considering you haven't even played through the game yet? -206.190.158.75 (talk) 04:10, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I'm just saying that Cassandra's statement in that picture seems to have greater meaning in a mage playthrough, since a Templar is supposed to be a protector and an executioner if needed. Fits Cassandra perfectly, in that she is both Templar and Nevarran (they revere the dead). Also, the mage is in a romance with someone who can kill him easier than most. Adds to the excitement. Compare that to a warrior or rogue, who might not even need Cassandra's protection, or would be able to beat her in combat. Believe it! (talk) 05:18, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
Not to argue semantics, but she's a Seeker not a Templar. Granted they're both trained as anti-mage warriors but there's got to be some sort of difference in their training.

-209.95.36.61 (talk) 06:23, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Well, I never, ever would have guessed those to be Alistair, Anora and Loghain... ever. Little disappointed. Guess the changes were inevitable, still, seems off. As for the ballroom outfits, also kinda off, more like what I'd expect a Chevalier or a General to wear on such an occasion, but I suppose that's fitting. And finally... interesting, going the whole way this time eh BioWare? After the racy underwear from Origins, DA2 and the devs saying romance scenes will be tasteful and whatever I wasn't expecting something so Witcher-y. Not that I mind per se, but I think it's a little unnecessary. Overall, slightly sceptical and possibly disappointed, but not going to stop me from playing and enjoying the game. SenjiBen (talk) 04:42, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I know. Anora's eyes seem to be smaller and a different shape. Her nose isn't right either, but the more I look at it the more it seems to be acceptable. Give it time. And she is about 10 years older now, so I guess it makes some sense. The ball outfit is lame, in my opinion. Cass' boobs are tolerable, though I hope we get to choose the setting and "manner" of intimacy. I would go for something more tasteful and comfortable. Believe it! (talk) 05:18, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
Surely the opportunity to be tasteful passed when you decided to critique her boobs on a public forum? :p

-209.95.36.61 (talk) 06:23, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

@Bellieve it! Yea, fair enough I'm sure I'll get used to it. Especially once I hear the voice actors playing their parts it'll feel like home again ;) I mean, I can stand Anora, like you say, it's been ten years same for Loghain. But Alistair, it's only been about two/three years since his appearance in DA2, and he looked different enough then. The generic ball outfit for all party members is a little sad but bearable. And yea, I still can believe their opting for full reveals. The Mass Effect games did have some near misses as far as romance scenes went, especially for Liara, but proper nudity in a BioWare game? Little sad that they'd have to stoop to that. Not entirely convinced it isn't some kind of glitch or hack, but guess we'll see. Anyway, I'm still hyped for the game, but this has taken my confidence down a notch, also learning that Assassin's Creed: Unity was optimized for PC at all, so really hoping Inquisition doesn't turn out like that. SenjiBen (talk) 06:46, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Waitjustadarnminute! Nudity in a EA-Bioware game? The ESRB rating was accurate then! Fox is going to have a field day with this *sex simulator* :P Diain (talk) 06:17, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

WHAT?! Boobs? Actual, bare boobs?! No more dry humping for romance scenes?!?! THIS IS IMPORTANT! The Witcher just lost all of its uniqueness.

My extreme exaggeration aside, those photos are pretty. Alistair? No so much. I guess thats not his good side. I'm sure he'll look better in-game though. Anora isn't tooooo bad. Just lay off the blush, honey. Vexed Forest (talk) 07:51, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Not quite we still don't collect stickers every time you sleep with someone (i hope) - Faye cousland
Blasted Orlesian Fashion Trends.

-209.95.36.61 (talk) 07:54, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

SMK is back with some good stuff! Seriously man where are you getting this from?

Hah, and I said they wouldn't go for The Witcher levels of nudity. Shows how wrong I was. Good job BioWare, never expected you would ever go this far, keep it up! This game suddenle got even better in my eyes! ;) And I'm sure the romance scenes will still be tasteful, it's not a porn game afterall. This is just the "aftermath".

Alright, back to the other pictures, else I get carried away. ;) Anora looks good, but where's her cleavage? Censored, maybe? Alistair looks seriously off. Not cool. Not cool at all. The male Qunari (Vashoth, whatever) looks wierd. Doesn't matter, someone just made him so. Loghain looks good, his hair changed, though. Whew... Now I'm hyped. Saba0th (talk) 08:21, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Now I am the warpath, seriously this is a game not some porn movie what is Bioware up to? Sure, this may attract some people but others (like me) will be completely put off by this. And when it comes to the good king and queen of Ferelden... I would not have realized it was them unless people had told me, Anora in particular looks more like Aveline, are you sure it is not her? Caspoi (talk) 11:10, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

That's a bit of an overreaction surely. So they get their kit off when they go to bed together like most of the population. Its not as anyone's going to be running around almost nude for the entire game (unless you're one of THOSE modders). As for the King and Queen, it is only my personal opinion but I think Anora looks pretty good. Its kind of hard to judge Alistair with that lighting making him look like some kind of bioluminescent entity.

Also can I mention I love how in the same thread, we are getting people complaining about how they look they haven't changed enough in the interim time span while other say their look has changed too much.

-206.190.136.245 (talk) 11:25, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

It is not the fact that they take their clothes of but more the fact that we are shown it and I do not think they look "bad", just that they look unlike themselves. Caspoi (talk) 12:04, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
I'd call it erotica rather than porn. But come on, it's not like this is gonna be the main focus of the game. Just a few scenes, and most likely no genitals shown. What's so offensive with that? Saba0th (talk) 11:46, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
It is a few scenes to many. Caspoi (talk) 12:04, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
Except of course we don't actually know how many scenes involve nudity or indeed to what extent. Besides if its supposed to be a moment of intimacy it wouldn't make any sense for them to have their kit on anyway. Plus they'll probably have some sort of censor anyway. So Caspoi can continue with their ....i'm sorry I don't quite know how to describe that. Is there a german word for when you accept the validity of a criticism in principle but feel its probably unmerited in a specific instance and based on tone is seemingly motivated more by an individual's own attitude to nudity and sexual activity?

-209.95.36.62 (talk) 12:17, November 12, 2014 (UTC)


The original source for some of the pics was on the DA Review thread on Neogaf. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 11:21, November 12, 2014 (UTC)


2 things:

Whats up with allistairs nose? and Lol so seeing boobs is offensive? why is the human body such a taboo jesus, if a woman breastfeeds her kid is it offensive too? if someone does topless at a beach is it offensive too? when a man takes his shirt off is it offensive too? its just breasts part of the human body, get over it - Faye Cousland

Naturally it is part of the body but that is kind of the point, it is a sexual organ and sexual organs have during human history been considered impertinent to show. Some people may like it but I do not belong to that group and I hate having to block the screen with my hand. Caspoi (talk) 12:04, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
Technically speaking breasts aren't sexual organs, but human society does have a tendency to sexualize them, and the taboo around showing such things is almost exclusively quite a modern, western phenomenon.
But that aside, it would seem that the warden who appeared with Hawke in the Enemy of Thedas trailer was Alistair after all, just not King Alistair. And is it just me or is he beginning to look more and more like his voice in real life, aka Steve Valentine, as time goes by?
As for Loghain he has certainly aged well, but I think I prefer the new look. One, he and Anora look more alike now, and two, I felt his Origins appearance was a little too googly eyed and unnatural so this is a step up. Either way, screenshots are one thing, seeing them in game will be the proof of the pudding --Bel3338 (talk) 12:39, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
exactly! its not like the manbreast are considered sexual organs or offensive in any way... just because some humans find female breasts appealing now its a sexual organ? the biggest sexual organ is skin...are you offended when you see skin? Alas, personaly when the someone who is showing nudity isnt being objectified (aka Witcher) than im ok with. Although, i have a question, when doctors have to ask their female patients to take their bra off for examination is that also offensive? - Faye Cousland
Breasts have been a prominent feature in artwork throughout human history. Just look at the greek and roman art, and a large amount of renaissance art. Besides, I haven't seen anyone complain about Iron Bull being topless most of the time. I think it's only right to put balance in there. As long as there's no in game depiction of genitalia, it's all just dandy. DeakialSig1 12:59, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
Personally, I find the romance scenes themselves, not the nudity, somewhat embarrassing. It doesn't stop me from watching them. Might be a matter upbringing. Like Bel3338 said, this taboo is mostly a western phenomenon, whereas for example I, as an eastern European (well,technically it's Central Europe) have no problem with that. Saba0th (talk) 13:16, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
(to all of you) it has been "considered" a sexual organ for quite some time with all the consequences so I would hardly call it "a new western phenomenon" . Caspoi (talk) 16:12, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
As Diain suggested, there's no point in debating this here. Doing so will derail the topic. However, all things said and done, the ESRB rating does specify that the game will contain nudity. DeakialSig1 16:38, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
I thought this taboo meant the nigh paranoic fear, or I-don't-know-how-to-call-it, of human sexuality (or just nudity, human body, something like that), which quite frankly, is a western fenomenon. Like it lead to sort of a paradox, eg. kids in the US can play gory games, mindless military shooters, watch movies with lots of blood, killing and stuff. But just a hint of a bare nipple is unacctable. Now, I'm not saying that what I just wrote isn't a pile of nonsense. In any case, I see that this is just derailing the thread, so let's just agree to disagree, shall we? Saba0th (talk) 17:55, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Honestly guys IMO there's no point in debating this here. People have different sensibilities and no amount of argument or reasoning will make either group convince the other that what they feel is wrong...because in the end it is about how you feel. There need not be a reason behind it. For the people who feel this stuff is inappropriate, you will probably just have to skip through the scenes. For people who feel that this sort of realism is long overdue in a Bioware game, which are just as popular for their stories and the emotions they evoke as they are for their gameplay, if not more, well you are getting your wish, so enjoy. Diain (talk) 14:08, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I'm offended that, despite Bioware touting a great-looking character creator, something is just very off about the recurring characters. Mostly because of the proportions/spacing in their eyes and noses (not the shape of their noses), Alistair in Inquisition looks more like Cullen in DA2 and Cullen in Inquisition looks more like Alistair in DA:O.--LeChien (talk) 16:02, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Omg I was thinking that! i dont know about cullen looking like alistair but Alistair sure looks like DA2 Cullen! they look wierd and anoras eyes are smaller i guess the porportions are simply diffrent - Faye Cousland
As far as Cullen looking like Alistair goes, I meant the general shape of his head, width of his face and spacing of his eyes. It just seems like there wasn't much attention to detail or continuity, or maybe too much attention to detail and whoever did it just got way too experimental with the new engine. --LeChien (talk) 16:31, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
You're "offended" because a character doesn't look identical to how he did ten years ago in the story, and a completely different engine in the real world? Wow, okay. 67.61.238.119 (talk) 17:23, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
That was a tongue-in-cheek remark in regard to people taking offense to nudity in the game, I'm not actually offended. I'm all for a character aging (something that I laughed off in DA2), but I was pointing out that the Inquisition interpretation of Alistair looks like an entirely different character in the screenshots I've seen, to the point where he and the other blond, white guy (Cullen) may as well be interchangeable in the game series overall. --LeChien (talk) 17:46, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I have found it difficult to tell them apart in Origins already. Caspoi (talk) 17:52, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

About the boobs... All I'm saying is that I prefer they keep it classy. I can tolerate what the image shows, but I would prefer a modest manner of intimacy and a more private setting. It just seems odd that Cass is... "open" enough to have a tryst in the woods on a burlap cloth. I was picturing her as being much more guarded and more difficult to get into bed, with emphasis on the word bed. Now, if there is the option to take things slow with her, and be intimate with her in the Inquisitor's bedchambers, then I will be pleased with that. I just think Cass would want to do it in a special place that was meaningful, not in the tall grass. So it isn't the nudity for me, it's the setting. Though I would also prefer Cass keep it under the covers in bed, provided that is an option.

As for Alistair, doesn't look anything like him. But in any case, does this confirm that he is the Grey Warden that was shown in the Enemy of Thedas trailer? Believe it! (talk) 18:20, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it's 100% confirmed, but I nabbed a screenshot of that warden. And now we have another image for reference, I think it may be Grey Warden Alistair.
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DeakialSig1 18:40, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
why is a bed a more important and intimate place? you don't even know where and why they would do it there. maybe its far more intimate this way, but maybe lets just make assumptions about smth we don't know, sounds reasonable. and damn it must have been emberessing when noone recognised alistair in the trailer XD total fail - Faye Cousland

I fell bad for Cassandra in your playtrough. You haven't even got to know her yet and apparently are trying to dictate what she should like or not like and how should express her sexuality and affection. I mean, really. (Joao gabrielp (talk) 18:44, November 12, 2014 (UTC))

And I feel sorry for all the characters, them being dictated by the developers. He only says how he would want it to be. Caspoi (talk) 19:24, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, wasn't trying to be a prick, it was just a joke. But how can someone think it's acceptable to have virtual sex while in reality can't even see some virtual nudes? Not trying to pick up a fight here, I just want to understand this point of view... (Joao gabrielp (talk) 19:49, November 12, 2014 (UTC))

I undersand then and might have reacted harshly. Caspoi (talk) 20:52, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah I don't like Alistair's new look. It might just be me but he looks like a young Rendon Howe. (NwolC (talk)

@Faye Cousland You mean, aside from the physical and emotional comfort that a bed offers over the ground? Well, respect? You'd be taking the woman into your room, in your bed where you sleep. It's inviting her into something personal and private to you. Much more honorable than just throwing down a potato sack in the woods and banging her. Even in Origins the player could take a woman into a "tent". And if privacy means nothing, then what about safety? If bugs crawling all around (and on) you wasn't bad enough we're in a world that is being overrun with demons, monsters, dragons, giants, wild animals, the Elder One, thieves, maleficarum, Obama, Fade Breaches, insane Templars, less insane Templars, Darkspawn, etc. So gettin' nikid in the woods... probably not a good idea. In the bedroom all you have to do is fall asleep, or bathe if you want to be like that, but you can't just fall asleep in the woods... nikid!

My problem isn't the nudity; it's the apparent lack of discretion and respect. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Sarkeesiaknight, but I would think Cassandra would have higher standards and more common sense than to choose "behind the bush" (no pun intended) for intimate relations.

That's a good point about Alistair. When people asked if that was "The" Warden, Laidlaw (or whoever answered) must have been thinking, "They can't tell that it's Alistair?"

@Joao gabrielp Like I wrote, I can tolerate the nudity. I would prefer it not be there, but oh well. The main thing I want is at least the option to take it slow with Cass and make love in the bedchambers where things are more dignified, as befitting a character of Cassandra's title and ability. Believe it! (talk) 20:48, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I can understand your point of view and respect it. But I think that maybe you're assuming too much things you don't have an actual knowledge of. Also: 1- you're assuming Cassandra cares about her title. We don't know about that yet. 2- I suppose that with both her and the Inquisitor being an important part of the order, maybe his or hers bedchambers isn't private enough, since people could knock on the door to summon them and interrupt whatever is happening. Maybe escaping to the woods for one morning or afternoon while nobody's looking is in practice more private than the alternative. Also, I'm new to the wiki and don't know how to mention people. How do I do that? (Joao gabrielp (talk) 21:24, November 12, 2014 (UTC))

Generally, if you're responding to someones comment, you indent your posts by placing one or more ":" before your response. And if you wanted to link someone's user page, eg. this [[User:Saba0th|Saba0th]], would look like that: Saba0th. One could even write something like that [[User:Saba0th|Moron]] ---> Moron, not recommended, though. ;) Saba0th (talk) 22:04, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Would be interesting if you have the option to make your main character being the only one fully clothed in the romance scene Like CPNP(Clothed Person Naked Person) Graf Gaius (talk) 21:25, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry but it makes no sense to me, sex is ok but nudity isnt? nudity isnt inheritly sexual, but hey to each their own. Second Believe it why must you make assumptions about something you don't know? I have a feeling that the woods thing will be far sweeter than a bedroom scene but hey if you want to make assumptions its your perogative, but its like food how do you know you don't like it if you havent tasted it? - Faye Cousland

Sex in the game or in the real world. In the game the answer is that I have no problem with the concept, so to speak, but I would not prefer to witness the act. In the real world... well who is to say that I do not disprove of it there too? Caspoi (talk) 08:48, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

More like one character being clothed and one character being nude if you want that option Graf Gaius (talk) 21:48, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Does anyone have a translation of the caption in the Anora and Alistair picture? I'm sure it's nothing earth shattering but I'm still curious. Also it's not just Alistair ... the more I compare them I could almost swear that he, Anora and Loghain are beginning to look more and more like their voice actors. It's almost certainly my imagination but have a gander at some Google images (I would post some pictures but I'm uncertain as to the legality of ripping pictures from the internet to post here, so better be safe than sorry) --Bel3338 (talk) 22:05, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I think it roughly translates as, "A truly generous offer. I doubt that you will wait on us." (Note: not my own translation, I thought the second sentence seemed a little off but you get the gist). I thought the same thing about the voice actors! Chantry symbol King Cousland | Talk   22:24, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I can respect not wanting to see nudity (even tough other people may not have an issue with it and romances being a completely optional part of the game) but summed up, what I understood was "it's ok if we can order our characters to make sex, as long as don't see them naked". And that seemed silly to me. (Joao gabrielp (talk) 22:15, November 12, 2014 (UTC))

It is about roleplaying: While I would not want to look upon that thing having all my characters living as celibates would inhibit the roleplaying aspect. And then there is the principle itself... Caspoi (talk) 23:56, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
Joao, we won't see them have sex though. It will be implied. It will be edited in a way that it can't be observed. Soft-core at most. So why can't Cassandra's frontal be the same way? That's all I'm saying. That said, I can tolerate the frontal. I'd rather not have to tolerate it. I'd rather have her under bedsheets. Just my preference. Having the story play out to include an intimate sexual activity isn't the same thing as seeing it. Believe it! (talk) 04:44, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Personally, I like Alistair - I think he looks appropriately weathered. Anora I'm a bit unsure about, particularly the bone structure, eyes and makeup, but I'm just happy to see her again! I'm not really a fan of the matching ceremonial uniforms - they feel like they'd fit a fantasy Renaissance or steampunk setting more comfortably than a Medieval one. Loghain! Delighted that he's back, hopefully they'll give him a good sendoff since he must be on death's door with either the Taint or old age (on that point, I think they should have given him grey hair instead of black). As for the nudity...I'm more in favour than against, so long as it isn't overly gratuitous. Chantry symbol King Cousland | Talk   22:24, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Wonder if they have 'Just for Men' in Thedas? Perhaps there's an entire branch of the Circle that magically disguises those unsightly greys? Maybe that's why Loghain is here - to sort out the mage crisis to get his hair back in order :P I'm not certain about the 'royal' outfits as they do seem to lack a regal quality. But my vision of royal tailoring is coloured by several centuries of real life portraiture of the monarchies of Europe which were of course skewed to show off wealth and power, so the actually clothing of the time was more than likely similar to this more functional style, a style which would match A&A's more hands on approach to ruling --Bel3338 (talk) 22:52, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
Both looked like young people (25-30) in their games (DA:O) but now that DA:I is several years later they look rather grown up (37-45).. I like that.--DaveManiac3 23:42, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
I'm fine with looking older, but Alistair looks nothing like he used to, not even in DA2. Anora's look is something I'm getting used to, but her design is also somewhat off. Believe it! (talk) 04:44, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
I know he looks off but I don't care, does it affect gameplay?? no... so who gives a damn what they look like --DaveManiac3 16:42, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Would like to color the uniform to a personal color like Black and Blue or White and Yellow Graf Gaius (talk) 00:39, November 13, 2014 (UTC)


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meow!Star Metal Knight (talk) 01:38, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

AAAAAAAH!!! MORRIGAN AND THE OGB!!! Saba0th (talk) 01:50, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Can you please add spoilers to the title? Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 01:59, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Done. Chantry symbol King Cousland | Talk   02:04, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Well, look at that! Only took 10 years for Morrigan to think "Maybe a bra's a good idea" XD--Lurooke Surana (talk) 03:18, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

New point. I hate Anora's hair style. Did she really chop off her pigtails? That style kind of defined her. Loghain says that daughters remain six years old with pigtails and skinned knees forever, though he doesn't say it if you spare him. But I always felt that Anora chose that hair style based on Eleanor. Anora said Eleanor was particularly dear to her. I think she emulated her in that regard. I felt like it provided another connection between the male human noble and Anora. But in DA:I Anora seems to be mimicking Celene, and I don't like that. Believe it! (talk) 04:44, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

The obvious response would be to say that we don't even know what Celene looks like in game yet. The other one would of course be that it seems very unlikely that Anora do anything to imitate someone she referred to as "that orlesian harlot"

The rest of it sounds a lot more like someone's fanfic headcanon feeling threatened more than anything. -209.95.36.61 (talk) 04:56, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

I wrote that she seems to be mimicking Celene, not that she is. We saw Celene's portrait on the cover of the Masked Empire. Mostly the same hairstyle. I only pointed out the possible connection between her an Eleanor. As for "that Orlesian harlot", when did Anora say that about Celene? Believe it! (talk) 05:17, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
In the codex entry for Fiona in Dragon Age II.--Lurooke Surana (talk) 05:20, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
Um... I think you mean Bard's Honor. Thanks. Believe it! (talk) 05:41, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
That's probably why they said "IN-GAME" appearance. Characters always look a bit different from concept art and yes artwork for book covers too.

-14.201.201.29 (talk) 06:03, November 13, 2014 (UTC)


The Iron Bull's Horn sure likes to block someones mouth Graf Gaius (talk) 05:23, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Spoiler hound that I am, for anyone interested, there is some context as to why Alistair looks exactly like he does. He's a wee bit grumpy. Something to do with mages, and his uncle. Theres a one of those extra quests on the war table which states "I wasn't in the best mood when we first met". So it could be that we'll see a familiar side of alistair if he smiles. Might also explain the emotionless face Anora's wearing as well. Maybe Alistairs just being a douchey husband. DeakialSig1 13:34, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

It's also been confirmed by neogaf that they were able to customize Hawkes appearance. Their face only though, they couldn't change the armor or anything. But HEY! no need to have the default hawke all the time, we get to customize their face. YEAH. FACE.... DeakialSig1 13:53, November 13, 2014 (UTC)


i was really hoping to be able to costumise their abilities.... (for example having my hawke use lightning when he only learned fire and snow or only entrophy and stuff would be pretty annoying)... is the face really the only thing we costumise? - Faye Cousland
That does seem to be the case. We've already seen that they wear the armor of the champion, and they change class depending on what you chose in the keep. I think they might just redesign their moveset. Like make Mage Hawke do the super-giant hands tear shit up attack rather than spells we may have used. Or they'll just do a mix of stuff, or make it so that his moveset makes sense story-wise. DeakialSig1 18:35, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
thats a bit annoying its not like i expect to be able to make my hawke a bloodmage but i would really enjoy making him a supportive or damage oriented mage depending on what i made my hawke, alas we can't have everything i would prefer to be able to choose the clothing for the ball and skyhold rather than this xP - Faye Cousland
I don't mind it too much, they won't be a party member after all. If they do fight, it will be with a pretty blue ring around them. DeakialSig1 19:21, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
I highly doubt Hawke is going to be fighting at all. Not sure why they would since they are not a companion. Their appearance is most likely one scene with a conversation. So, wishing that Hawke had the same abilities as in 2 is pointless. NutMeg29 (talk) 00:40, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
In one of the gameplay trailers you see Hawke fighting along side your party in combat in what looked to be the fade. Even if Hawke does have different abilities, you can just think of it as that he leveled up and gained some new ones. Surely a level cap isn't cannon.--I am Thorge (talk) 06:13, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

I would never guessed that would be Alistair, Logahin, or Anora. So different, at least Leliana bares some resemblance to her original design. I guess Leliana ages better than Alistair? Hmmm Not gonna lie I was at on point thinking my Queen Warden should get a divorce. lol Only joking. I guess I'll have to get used to these new looks, its been 10 years since DAO so some facial differences is expected. Oh and I love the censoring, lmao. Luner45 (talk) 01:14, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

First pic of Alistair and Anora they looked better in Origins, no matter how many years have passed their faces looked completely transformed! I'd say due to too much of that cheap Fereldan plastic surgery. Loghain has faired better it looks like he just got a hair cut, They 4 look like a quartet of travelling bards more than anything and as for Cass looks like she really enjoyed herself Witcher 2 style! --Archangel Mike (talk) 05:38, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

I look at that picture and I am starting to suspect the Warden in the "Enemy of Thedas" trailer is Warden!Alistair. Also, I think Anora's hair is too similar in colour to her skin, and the person they are talking to may be Fiona (the robes look the same and that ear looks pointed). - Mimi Sardinia. 121.223.33.31 (talk) 08:59, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

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