Hey all after reading a couple of threads for like the fifth time lol I started to think that Asunder and to a lesser extent DA II has set up at the very least the beginning of the next (yet to be officially announced) DA III. Now obviously this is all speculation, but I just thought it was curious.
Now in DAII we here about how there's a civil war brewing in Orlais (ty Alistair) which sets up the sub plot in the Asunder novel where Empress Celene is possibly captured, dead or in Jader with her army. Now that last possibility is the one I want to focus on at the moment.
You see assuming that the protagonist of the third game is as relatively clueless about the outside world as Hawke and the Warden is at the beginning of their respective games than I'll assume that the new PC is from Ferelden that way that it's understandable that they don't know the full story of what's going on in Orlais.
Since Jader is the closest Orlesian city to Ferelden than it's plausible that for whatever reason that makes the PC leave Ferelden by that particular route leads them into the war camp of the Empress. Now with the Divine in trouble due to the Grand Duke's coup the PC is recruited by Cassandra (one possibility it may be any number of reasons) who has joined the Empress in her attempts to reclaim the throne.
Now maybe the PC must attempt to gain support from various parties not by gathering armies per se, but maybe by influencing their courts, or turning them on the Duke, something like a spy game or similar to the IA from SWTOR.
The Mage-Templar War may appear as a plot that is somewhat going on concurrently with you either choosing to influence it or play both sides in favor of Orlais.
Anyway that my theories and I wouldn't mind hearing all of yours.
I usually cringe when I read fan's 'predictions' about DA but yours was actually interesting. The thing is though that your theory/speculation is too focused on the orlesian civil war when the Mage/Templar plot is the main focus bioware is going with. So I doubt the game will start with the Orlesian civil war. It'll probably be like the Ferelden civil war which was secondary to The Blight plotline.--Vincent Cousland (talk) 13:32, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Vincent. You know I guess I kind of blocked off that because I've never been to fond of the whole Mage-Templar War, not because I don't think it's an awesome idea, but because I think Orlais and Tevinter are to interesting culturally to have an entire game based in one or both of them to focus on primarily on that specific plot. Now if Bioware can spin it to make it that the plots blend like your example of the Blight and Ferelden Civil War than that would be fine, though I'm curious to see how mages occupying cities would look like. I feel if we sort of brush the O.C.W to the side however that we miss out on a lot of cool lore bits such as the Empress' personal assassins that you learn about in DA: O (I believe) or even Kal-Sharok.
Now as a side note that comes completely from pure nerd fantasy I'd love the idea of Empress Celene I pulling a Zelda i.e disguising herself as someone completely and joining the party as a Rogue who is secretly trying to regain her throne. I also like the idea of her leading her army through the Deep Roads in order to possibly bypass Val Royeaux's gates.
OMG! You should write for video games!!! or atleast be a break down writer or a storyboard writer.
Lol thanks I appreciate that, it actually is one of my dreams to one day work for Bioware as a writer though I have to admit that I have a lot of work to do. I'd work for them for free (as long as they gave me a sofa to sleep on, shower, food and clothes, (sofa optional), hell I'd walk to Edmonton or Austin from New York if that meant I'd get a job.
Anyway, this kind of stuff comes out of my head at a regular basis if it wasn't for forums like this I think my brain would go into melt down with all the back up.
Anyway it just seems like Empress Celene has been in development story wise for quite a while, she was slated to be in DA: Origins at one time and has been getting quite a bit of mention in recent DA materials, specifically DA II and Asunder, plus it's Orlais so I think I might nerd rage (rarely do) if we go there, she's alive and we DON'T see her.
I would probably do the same thing if we went to the Tevinter Imperium and didn't see the three massive Golems or the Archon.
You definitely have a knack for this because using the Zelda/Shiek idea is pretty brilliant and would most likely go over really well with people. Honestly though, I'm not sure bioware would be that good to include something like that in their game. But I have a feeling that DA3 will be more like DA:O in the sense that the major conflict is going to be the mage and templar war and all the other side conflicts will have their own story but somehow be related and aide with the major conflict we're dealing with. Similar to the structure used in DA:O and pretty much every bioware game before that. So it is likely the Orlesian civil war will need to be settled by us in order to move and to the finale of the mage/templar war. I too would love to see Kal Sharok. It'd be interesting to see how different they are from their Orzammar brothers. I have a feeling they're more primitive and definitely more xenophobic.
As far as working for bioware or just a video game writer, you do have some talent. Sometimes when pursuing your dream job, you have to work for free in order to get experience, build contacts, and to get your name out there. But it'll be worth it in the end. Find ways to develop your talent and just stick with it. With hard work and not giving up, you will get there one day.--Vincent Cousland (talk) 13:37, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Vincent. I agree that the plot of DAIII will likely be more akin to Origins but you have to remember that in Origins there were all of those sub-plots; the Ferelden Civil War, The Werewolf Plague, fight over the Orzammar throne, Golem issue etc, but in Orlais would we have that? We have Kal-Sharok possibly, maybe something to do with the 1,000 or so elves in the Val Royeaux alienage, the Orlesian Civil War and maybe, just maybe the corruption going on within the Chevalier ranks...now that I type it out maybe I should shut up lol.
I doubt the Mage-Templar War will end in one game though maybe two, I think it would need to end or at the very least have some kind of part in Tevinter and although it's possible we might visit both in the next game I'd prefer it if we focused on one country at a time.
I agree with you about the Kal-Sharok dwarves, if they're that angry with their own people how are they going to react to humans, dwarves and Kossith. Have they even met a Kossith yet? I mean Orzammar just got in touch with them who knows how long they've really been in isolation. If you do go to Kal-Sharok maybe you have a dwarf who wants to see the outside world.
I found the reading of your conversations, very enlightening. I am still thinking that it would have been an easier route to take with more possibilities for spin off games. If Bio-Ware had decided to have the Kossith invasion of Olais or to have the Kossith take sides in the Mage-Templar war, because then you could have Tevinter siding with the Mages. What Say You? --Charlie.look (talk) 20:10, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
First off I want to say thanks for reading and I'm happy you found our conversations enlightening, but I have to be honest and say I don't completely understand what your paragraph said. It wasn't coherent.
What would be an easier route? Now in regards to the Qunari (since not to sound snobby, but when I refer to Kossith I mean the species and not the group in general known as the Qunari) I think if they were to choose sides and it wasn't involved in a main game then it would likely be in a DLC or expansion and not a full game in it's own right, since the only spin offs we've seen were browser/facebook games.
I think it would be better if we have a sixth and seventh blight or if possible two arch demons being in the thrid came because that pretty much what the Dragon Age is aganst which is the DarkSpawn.
I can't really agree with you there Anonymous, the Dragon Age is about a lot more than a single facet of the world, mind you admittedly the Grey Wardens and the Blight were what made Origins and Awakening so great, but I think it would get old if we focused solely on that and that alone.
I mean Archons, Qunari, Dragon Hunters there is so much that could make the next installment so great if they're able to recapture the formula of Origins. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 19:44, July 16, 2012 (UTC)Dagen of Val Royeaux