So I've read the Calling and The Stolen Throne several times and I've really taken a liking to Maric. He is my favorite character in the universe next to Alistair. Now I've just read his page here on the Wiki and when it came to his death people say that there are still rumors of Maric being alive. It also said that Loghain looked for him for two years and ended up finding nothing. If Loghain was able to find no clues about where his remains are then that says a lot. The rumors say that Maric is locked up in some dungeon in Orlais. To me it just seems weird that he was lost at sea and then declared dead with no remains of anything found. Could it be that Maric is still alive somewhere? Has it been confirmed by David Gaider that Maric is really gone? And if he wasn't and he made a miraculous return to Fereldan, what would it mean for the monarch if Alistair, The Warden or Anora were currently on the Throne? Personally I would find it to be really awesome if Maric was indeed alive. What do you guys think?--Vincent Cousland (talk) 03:00, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
I think Gaider's comment (footnoted on the Maric bio page here) is pretty telling: "Sometimes people simply die." I agree and also feel that if people die, they should generally stay dead unless there's a really, really, REALLY compelling reason for them not to, and I don't see that there is in Maric's case. Qalan (talk) 03:15, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
- In the cases of Zevran and Leliana, no such reason existed. --Isolationistmagi (talk) 06:06, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
- ...That we know of, yet. Although I seem to recall that it was mentioned that the Zevran cameo wasn't supposed to spawn if he was killed in DA:O and that it was a case of that decision not being properly imported (which happened a lot in DA2). I also recall one of the writers saying that there is a reason for Leliana's 'return' that just hasn't been explained yet. Sorry I can't provide more detailed sources for that, but that's what I remember from when the game was first released anyway. Also, personally, I'm prepared to be a bit more lenient when the 'resurrection' in question is that of a much-liked (by some, at least) NPC from the original game as opposed to a background character from novels I'm willing to be that most people have not read. And finally, if Maric is indeed alive, I'd much prefer him to be living 'happily-ever-after' in a quiet settlement somewhere with his Grey Warden than returning to muck up the royal succession/politics in Ferelden - and as I read the character, I think that'd be his preference too! Qalan (talk) 05:48, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
- I forgot about the Zevran cameo being a glitch. As for Leliana, I guess we'll need to wait for DAIII or the next DLC. They will definately need a good reason though. Not only that, but they need a decent explanation, as their current one is garbage. --Isolationistmagi (talk) 06:06, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
Ah I see Qalan. I didn't see that footnote. Gaider also said something pretty similar about Duncan around the time DA2 was announced. People were saying that Hawke looked like Duncan and Gaider just went out and said that Duncan was dead and he'd only be back if it was a prequel to Origins. Thats too bad. I would've liked seeing Maric return as he is a really cool character. Though since his death is so vague it is possible that they could bring him back but I see that as being highly unlikely.--Vincent Cousland (talk) 14:22, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
What gave you the idea that Maric is dead ? Haven't you people read the Silent Grove ? Where Alistair sets out with Varric and Isabela to find him in a crow prison and kills Flemeth's daughter there ? Seriously you call yourselves fans ? Do more study! images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120322231204/dragonage/images/4/45/Maricvelabanchelcropped.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 18:24, September 21, 2012
- He may still be dead. The image you posted is a flashback from years ago, and Yavana says that even though she did not kill Maric, she "cannot speak for others." In all honesty, I think the likelihood is that he's gone for good, simply due to the narrative complications of revealing he's alive (and because I doubt they'd keep such a big revelation confined to comics). 17:37, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
- As well, all the posts before yours were made around four months before The Silent Grove was released. -Sophia (talk) 17:41, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
Yes we call ourselves fans anon. Perhaps you need to study reading skills yourself as I made this thread almost a year ago. Way before Silent Grove came out...--Vincent Cousland (talk) 20:46, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
- I hoped in DA:SG Maric will finaly tell Alistair that he's Fiona's son or that he has another long lost brother (I support the letter theory) and my expectations were failed. I hope in DA:TWS it won't happen again. I was furious not only because of not receiving answers for questions asked for years, but also because the story was unfinished and sloved nothing. 184.108.40.206
Lets just hope Loghain isn't alive and around when Maric does the big reveal if Fiona is Alistair's mum.
Alistair: So my mum's an elven grey warden mage.
Maric: She's also Orlaisia... ack!
Loghain: Orlaisian! Orlaisian! You (obsenities)
Still though i'm not sure what Maric being alive will do that much. He may give king Alistair a hand in ruling or just go to he reirement home or beat the brains out of Loghain if he's still alive. But i doubt he'll have that big an impact on DA3 storyline. Also the TSG and TWS comics are all dependant on Ali being king and Alive.Phoenix96 (talk) 13:20, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
- In canon story (Hero of Ferelden in DA2) Loghain is dead. It's confirmed that TSG and TWS are based on the canon story.
I think he is still alive. The real question is: If he shows up in future games. Will be be ally or enemy? You know how BioWare loves to throw that kind of twist into things *coughs* (revan) GreyWolf84 (talk) 13:36, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I do. I find it a coincidence that Maric, Warden, and Hawk have mysteriously disappeared and all 3 have had a run in with a certain mage. If this isn't the case, then the developers need to stop using the "disapperance" explanation.--Gutbuster66 (talk) 02:29, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
Ever since this silient grove business, I always had a feeling that Maric would be shown alive, but not really? like maybe in stasis? I dunno, its weird. And, I always thought it was funny that who ever Flemeth aids, they disappear mysteriously. I also think Calenhad's disappearing had something to do with Flemeth or one of Flemeth's bodies or whatever. He's where Theirin blood comes from. Maybe he ran out before waking all of the dragons?? *shrugs* I dunno, I'm rambling. --High Kicks (talk) 00:20, September 24, 2012 (UTC)
I really hope Maric isn't dead. I'm dying for the two to meet(I'd rather it be in an expansion pack or something or a book) so that Maric can explain to Alistair why he did what he did. Maric followed Fiona's wish and they both wanted a safe comfortable life for him. It's unfortunate what happened to Alistair(if anything, it's Eamon's fault for not following the bros before hoes code) but it wasn't Maric's intention to have Cailan die and have Alistair inherit the throne.--Vincent Cousland (talk) 11:12, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
- I know theory of Ali as Fiona's child is popular, but I belong to people believing that Alistair has another long lost brother and Maric was a womanizer.
Read Stolen Throne and The Calling. Maric was not a womanizer. To be a womanizer you have actually know how to talk to women. Maric wasn't exactly the smoothest guy.--Vincent Cousland (talk) 13:58, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Maric was also supposedly hot, and a king. Those two factors more than make up for any deficit in smoothness:)
- Otherwise I agree. In neither book was there mention of Maric shagging anyone other than Katriel, Rowan, or Fiona. Was there any mention of Maric's womanizing in the game other than "Maric has a bastard"? If so, it seems that the books were a lazy attempt at making Maric likeable by retconning his infidelity.
- The last line of The Calling, "It didn't feel like an end, it felt like a beginning" makes for a segue between the storyline of the first two books and the Origins storyline. With that, and the description of Fiona's baby (blond, human, and fussy) the case is strong for Alistair being Fiona's son. Why mention a baby if he's not important to the plotline? Or maybe I'm just biased because like both Fiona and Alistair and want them to be related. It's a shame that Gaider was so woefully incompetent at keeping his facts and timeline straight when writing this stuff...LigerNull (talk) 15:29, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
Just to make this clear to anyone with any bright ideas this is not where we start arguing if Fiona is Alistair's mum. That has happened too many times on previous forums. This is just dicussing whether Maric is alive or not. I personally don't give a damn about the absent former king.In my playthoughs either Ali/ Anora are on the throne so it doesn't matter. Phoenix96 (talk) 15:36, September 25, 2012 (UTC)