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I didn't think it was newsworthy in the sense that it is a leak, so the reliability at times, can differ. But this leak here:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-23-survey-leaks-last-adventure-dragon-age-inquisition-story-dlc

by Eurogamer is rather interesting. It talks about one last adventure with the Inquisition, hunting down the person who started it all, and about facing a great evil before it is too late. Is the person Solas?

"Having saved the world of Thedas by closing the Breach, your next mission will determine the future of the Inquisition. Your mark suddenly glows, erupting with magic connected to the Fade. Assassins attack in shadow. An invasion of enemies begins. Win a race against time to face a great evil before it is too late. In this story-based expansion, playable after the events of Dragon Age: Inquisition, you will embark on a last adventure with your team to confront the one who started it all."

"Test your mettle against the full force of the disciplined and battle-hardened Qunari army"Either the story links with them, or it may be a multiplayer feature.

"Explore diverse, new areas as you fight the threat across the whole of Thedas" Are we getting the chance to go elsewhere?

"Uncover secrets of the Fade that will change your understanding of the world as you know it"

"Prove your skill with a new, optional gameplay mode that challenges even the most seasoned veteran"

What isn't mentioned is the deep roads that the devs were hinting about. Maybe it's somehow connected or that's part of a DLC that's coming before this or something, since they've made it out as though this is the last expansion dlc. 18:47, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

I don't like this "last" business. DAI was successful, why limit the DLCs to only two? Is the deal with Microsoft not paying out, I wonder? henioo ^{(da talk page)} 18:50, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

DA2 only had two post-launch DLCs, so I wouldn't find that so odd, especially when the game had no season pass or similar method of acquiring additional funding. Even so, Jaws of Hakkon clearly required a lot of work as was priced accordingly, so having fewer DLCs that have more content is a fair trade-off. Mr. Mittens (talk) 18:58, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

The difference is that DA2 was not successful at all. They didn't have much projected sales for additional content to a game that majority hated. Inquisition sold quite well as far as I'm aware. I mean, with Origins there were 5 DLC, including the expansion Awakening and the spin offs Darkspawn Chronicles and Leliana's Song. henioo ^{(da talk page)} 19:02, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm. Maybe, if this leak is real, the dlc is intended to be a planned one that's got a while to come out? It was apparently a survey after all, so they might be planning on bringing out DLC before this, but not as big, content wise, as this. Even so, I don't suspect all of it to be real anyways. 20:20, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Success is incredibly relative though. DAI was pretty good and clearly sold well, but it was also probably way over budget with the lengthy delays and major changes made mid-development. How profitable it was is debateable, though it's very unlikely it lost money at all. The DLC is another matter. With DAI fading rather quickly, and sorry it really has, and with the exclusivity deal in place, it's extremely probable the first DLC sold very poorly. Making more really isn't a great idea, but they will because they need to set up the future and answer some questions. And because they probably have to thanks to Microsoft. It most likely will not do well though, so only one more DLC is almost a sure thing . Besides, they need to up their game here big time for the next installment, so they should already be hard at work I would hope. The RPG landscape is suddenly different from what it was last November. Much more will be expected. The Grey Unknown (talk) 13:36, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more with this. If anything, the hype surrounding Hakkon for the PS4 was closer to none, when it was released, considering that PS4 players outweigh Xbox One players. It had a detrimental effect no doubt, on sales. Also, again, not only has the RPG landscape changed entirely since DAI, but so has the open world one. Despite finding IGN deplorable, they did an article on how many new games are now adopting that open world style. Witcher 3 was huge, and now any new RPG will undoubtedly get compared to that, as previous ones were, to Skyrim. Metal Gear Solid V looks to revolutionise the open world landscape, astoundingly, and now more and more games are adopting that style like the new Ghost Recon game. I wouldn't be surprised that by DA4, that such a medium has been normalised. I can almost guarantee that BW will make a greater effort to make DA4 a true open world game. Where BW take the series now, who knows, but they have a large task ahead of them. Whereas studios like CDPR had time, I don't know if BW would...despite having a larger budget, and team than the one that made Witcher 3. 14:00, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

You have to remember that while DAI was being developed they were also working with a brand new game engine. Now that they understand Frostbite, those early hurdles have been cleared, making the way for what I can only expect to be a massive DA4. --Elshiro (talk) 11:44, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

CDPR doesn't have any budget issues since they have GOG and cheap labor in Poland that Witcher 3 only cost 45 million to make while DAI is much more. DAI has a lot of issues since its a cross-gen title. I'm sure DAI sold well since ME3 sold 7 million for 3 years and have a lot of awards. Its very likely that they developing one DLC this time since they are developing ME:A as well.124.106.115.223 (talk) 04:24, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

CDPR is a subsidiary of CDProjekt, a major Polish publisher, too, so they constantly make money by publishing other people's games in Poland. I may be wrong, but I think they released Dragon Ages in Poland, too. But I wouldn't agree with the cheap labour. They've got lots of foreigners working in CDPR now, and they wouldn't go for a normal Polish salary (which is like six times less than UK, give or take). henioo ^{(da talk page)} 09:11, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Anon. I was meaning to compliment their hard work. They had a low budget compared to other AAA games, which wasn't indicative of where they were developing the game, yet they made, what was arguably one of the largest, most filled and expansive game in recent times. As Henioo pointed out, they don't emply cheap labour dude. They're part of the EU, hence they have to follow certain rules in regards to labour. And even then, they have a lot of foreign developers and have been using foreign tech. And Elshiro, I hope that's the case. I suspect DA4 is indeed going to be massive. I hope they make it fully open-world though, instead of large areas, with empty landscapes. . I really think they can pull it off. I expect me:a to be fairly large too, but location size has never been the core thing in that series. 23:09, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

As Henio said in the previous post, Polish salary is much smaller if you compare it to the western world. It means they can create can an open world AAA title without costing alot like GTA5 or Destiny that are much more expensive to make. Its very likely that DA4 will cost a hundred million to make.27.110.189.229 (talk) 05:22, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

But he also mentioned that a lot of their devs are foreign. They could easily work elsewhere if they don't get as much money at CDPR. Plus, the technology they use is not homegrown exactly. A lot of the things they use to develop their games are from other nations, add to this, the cost of Voice Actors too. It's not going to be significantly lower dude. Plus, they had a small team of 200, and made a game that many would think would have way more. 21:19, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

If you don't believe then fine but they made a huge open world title with a small budget that Bioware who has a bigger team is trying hard and failed to do so in DAI.27.110.189.229 (talk) 06:08, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

It wasn't a matter of believing, but was more about logic and rationality. I get that the average polish wage is less, compared to other Western nations, but that does not mean that CDPR pay less, especially when there are developers that pay handsomely for experienced talented game developers, in which CDPR clearly has a lot of. Plus, like I mentioned before, in all fairness, BW didn't have as much time, and were working on (as someone highlighted) a game without a background in using this new engine. 08:09, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

It's much better if Bioware never turn this game into a semi-open world game and focused more on the story. Since they can't make a decent open world game for a 3 year period with a story. Witcher 3 has been developed for 4 years and CDPR has an experience in their development of their in-house game engine.27.110.189.229 (talk) 09:32, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Now that I agree with. Though, I expect DA4 to be huge, and maybe even multi-national, I'd still hope for expansive areas that are filled to the brim. CDPR did indeed have more experience, especially since their trilogy seemed more well established in a way. 19:54, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Well, Russians believe it's fake. They say it is some kind of hacking virus.92.51.116.60 (talk) 19:37, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm. Interesting, considering past leaks have been fairly accurate, in regards to BioWare, but that doesn't mean this one can't be fake I guess. I still wouldn't be surprised however, that if this is indeed a fake, that some info in it might actually be accurate and the other stuff, made up. 20:20, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

And the Russians have never lied about anything... *cough* Ukraine *cough* (Not an insult, just an observation :) ) Chihang1990 (talk) 18:28, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Wasn't there some thinly-veiled hint from the devs on Twitter that the next DLC would be darkspawn/Deep Roads-related? Until we hear more from more reliable sources, I'm writing this off as fake (although that didn't make ZITHER! fake...). RShepard227 (talk) 21:45, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

It is highlighted in the article, hence that's why it seemed dubious, by the original author. And it wasn't a direct reference that the next DLC will be associated with the deep roads anyways but we can deduce that from it, that it is. For all we know, they might have a few dlc coming out before this, 'big' send off one occurs. I think they have other DLC coming out before this one does anyways. Like it was mentioned, it is unlikely that they'll have just only 2 story DLCs.

OR for all we know, this DLC takes us to the Deep Roads. Don't count that out. The big evil for all we know, might actually be there. From what I know--correct me if I am wrong-- they never claimed that the DLC would centre around the Deep Roads/Darpspawn. I saw it as a hint that we'll be going there, for sure. I'm betting if it isn't its own DLC, it might be a part of this one. Though, I could see one arguing that they'd make it apparent that we're going there.I think it may indeed be fake, but that doesn't make it fake I guess. 00:01, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

If this is another deep roads darkspawn dlc ill be pissed off, im sick of the damned darkspawn its dragon age not bloody darkspawn ageBlitzbear93 (talk) 01:14, June 25, 2015 (UTC)Blitzbear93

That's not really fair, the Darkspawn are an integral part of the DA universe, would you prefer some expansion based around those annoying little goblin things (can't remember what they're called) from DA II? John the Manic (talk) 06:02, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Precisely. They are to Dragon Age, what Orcs are to the Lord of the Rings. I get that we can have stories that don't involve them, but the darkspawn having a presence, whether it be it large or small, just serves to remind us that there is destructive force still out there, waiting to become a horde and cause excessive destruction. 11:58, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

You mean ghasts? Silver Warden (talk) 21:17, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I meant ghasts. Thank you. John the Manic (talk) 02:30, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Heh, Ghast Hole. --100.36.168.78 (talk) 13:34, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

At this point, >6mthns since launch, I'd be happy with any sort of DLC!!! I need my DA Fix!!! Chihang1990 (talk) 18:28, July 6, 2015 (UTC)