Hi Guys, Am new to the Forum so apologies first if this has already been discussed. I was thinking about the companions from all three games and how similar some are in comparison to others. For example: Aveline and Cassandra. Personally I think both characters are exceptional - they have their own arcs, well thought out dialogue options and the VA's delivery is sublime. But what if these two characters were on opposite sides of the overall conflicts Thedas generally gets thrown into? I for one, out of these two characters would prefer it if Aveline came out on top, over Cassandra. Purely personal preference for me - I like Aveline more and think her story has huge potential. I do like Cass though, but that is getting off topic.
The question I pose to you is this: If our heroes were on opposite sides who would you want to win? Obvious opposites Morrigan and Flemeth, Loghain and Alistair. But what about the less obvious Companions... Discuss :) HisDarkMagnificence
Anyone who has played Inquisition should know that Flemeth would wipe the floor with Morrigan - or anyone for that matter. As for Loghain and Alistair, my money's on Loghain - he has decades of battle experience, Alistair is a novice by comparison. But then, Alistair actually does/can beat him in the game, so who knows.
Personally I'd like to see Oghren versus Varric (Ogrhen wins), Zevran versus Isabella (Zevran wins) and Sten versus Bull (Bull wins). Silver Warden (talk) 17:26, August 5, 2016 (UTC)
- I agree with you about Bull and Oghren winning (assuming we aren't letting Varric take out Oghren from a distance), but I think Isabella would beat Zevran. She is duelist - an expert at one on one combat, while Zevran is an assassin - better at taking out unsuspecting targets. Not to say he's bad in a straight-up fight, but this is what Isabella is known for. Plus, Zevran tends to spend the entirety of every fight as one of my active companions laying on the ground with a cracked skull unless I focus primarily on micro-managing him... --CountSilvershroud (talk) 19:50, August 6, 2016 (UTC)
- Good point. I figured Zevran would win because he's a professional killer, whereas Isabella is a thief who sometimes kills. But her fighting style is much more effective in straight-up duels. Silver Warden (talk) 17:35, August 7, 2016 (UTC)
How about Bull vs Fenris? As a reaver, Bull is basically the warrior equivalent of a blood-mage, compared to Fenris' lyrium abilities. I think Bull would probably win because he is a more experienced fighter, but it would be close. And interesting to watch. --CountSilvershroud (talk) 00:58, August 10, 2016 (UTC)
- It would be Fenris, hands down...if Fenris actually used his power intelligently. The guy can phase his hand into a person's body and pull out their organs. This should be move one for him in every fight. Because there'd be no need for a move two. In fact, if he were to take full advantage of his powers, he would virtually be unbeatable in melee combat, at least against living beings. Undead, demons, and constructs are another matter.
- But does Fenris use his powers like that? No, because he is a moody idiot. He only uses it as a finishing move, which is really when that power is the least useful. So yeah, Bull would win. He'd make Fenris angry, causing him to charge at Bull irrationally, at which point Bull could swiftly decapitate him.
- Give that power to Cassandra, Aveline, or hell even Oghren and they could conquer armies. Or give that power to Isabella and she "would make so much coin" at the Blooming Rose. Silver Warden (talk) 02:44, August 10, 2016 (UTC)
How about Solas with Mythal's power...versus everyone. Literally every companion from every game including DLC companions and temporary companions, plus Hawke, all six potential Wardens and all six potential Inquisitors. The winner? Solas. All he'd have to do is glance at them. Seriously why does he think he needs an army? What he needs is excellent vantage points and a good pair of binoculars. He could freeze all of Thedas after a couple dozen hiking trips. Only ships at sea would be safe, and he could probably just sink those with some uber fireball spell. Honestly the army could only be a hindrance for him. But I digress. Silver Warden (talk) 02:58, August 10, 2016 (UTC)
I think Isabela would kick Zevran's butt and toy with him a bit, it'd be funny I'd imagine but it'd also get very dirty and ugly before the end though. I don't know about Sten V Bull....for some reason I can just imagine Sten taking Bull's remaining eye or snapping his horns to just teach him a lesson in respect. I love Merrill's sweet, naive nature, but it would be fantastic to watch a showdown between her and Solas. I think Solas would win, but by breaking her spirit and beliefs before anything else. She could definitely be in with a chance by summoning demons to distract him and then strike or getaway. I'd love to see an Anders V Vivienne onslaught - I think we'd truly see Vivi lose her shit! I love both characters though, so I don't know who I'd like to win more..--HisDarkMagnificence (talk) 01:07, August 20, 2016 (UTC) HisDarkMagnificence
- Hmm, Anders vs Vivienne would be interesting, though I'd rather see that as a debate - the pro-circle First Enchanter vs the anti-circle Warden. As far as fights between mage companions go, I'd like Anders vs Wynne - Faith vs Vengeance. I think Anders is probably more powerful, but Wynne would win as long as she could hold out for a bit, and her spirit could make sure that happens. Once Anders goes full Vengeance he kind of looses his mind, and I don't think you could take out Wynne by going berserk. She's too smart and experienced for that. --CountSilvershroud (talk) 06:17, August 20, 2016 (UTC)
- I assume you mean Merrill vs Solas before he absorbs Mythal. But even then, it wouldn't be a fair fight. Solas is an immortal with the wisdom of the ages - Merrill has raw power, and she relies on that alone to win. But even discounting godhood, experience, and tactics, Solas would still win. He's just more powerful than her, even before absorbing Mythal. He has rift mage powers, and presumably knowledge of more spells than she's even heard of. Also, I'm not sure Merrill can actually summon demons. She made a deal with one yes, but she can't actually summon one in combat, nor is she ever seen doing so in cut scenes. Theoretically she could use blood magic to mind control someone - we never see her use it, but she does have access to the blood slave power. However, Solas is a mage and it has been shown that sometimes mages can resist a blood mage's attempt to control them. I mean if Hawke can do that, Solas definitely could.
- So yeah Merrill would stand no chance against Solas. It wouldn't even be close. The other mage companions wouldn't fair much better - Solas just has too much experience and knowledge for any of them to be a serious challenge. If Viv were actually good at being a knight enchanter she might stand a chance of at least forcing a draw, since Solas wouldn't do as well in melee. But whenever I have her use those skills, she dies pretty fast. I don't know if I should take poor game AI as an indicator of her "actual" combat skills. When I play as a knight enchanter, he's basically invincible and I can't really justify that as "well yeah but because Inquisitor". So assuming Viv used her knight enchanter abilities properly, she'd have a decent chance of surviving a fight with (pre-Mythal) Solas, though not necessarily winning. Silver Warden (talk) 03:15, August 21, 2016 (UTC)
Rembember though, Anders was a Spirit Healer prior to becoming infused with Justice and with Hawke's assistance in saving Ella, I think Anders could come back from losing complete control. I think he could manage to take Wynne down, albeit it would be an arduous battle on both sides - crippling then healing and so on, I think Justices righteousness would overpower the Spirit of Faith inside Wynne. Great idea Count :) For a debate, strictly speaking I know Valta and Dagna aren't companions per se, but they would be add an interesting dynamic to dwarven Magic and Lyrium. If Carver survived, I think he'd be crushing on Cassandra hard, but she would literally crush him for trying and as Templar fights go it'd be a no-brainer Cass over Alistair and Carver hands down. HisDarkMagnificence
--HisDarkMagnificence (talk) 23:40, August 20, 2016 (UTC)