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This is something that I've seen recently on the wiki: people adding what would be considered non-canon to article pages, e.g. listing the Warden a blood mage. Since this is non-canon, I don't think they should be listed as a notable blood mage on the Blood Mage article. The other reason, although not the basis of this argument but just something to keep in mind of, is that allowing this means all mage companions become notable blood mages, if taken as a specialization.

There is no written policy regarding how this kind of non-canon material is supposed to be handled. I haven't seen a policy regarding canon materials, although I'm pretty sure it's not allowed if it's non-canon. However, if somewhat relevant, it seems okay that it is added as trivia (e.g., Hawke being the Warden's relative). --D. (talk · contr) 17:45, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

He shouldn't be listed on there because the warden isn't a noticeable anything. His variety strikes him of that. The only thing he's known for is being a Grey Warden and stopping the Blight.--TheGreyestWarden (talk) 19:08, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by non-canon. Do you mean like stating that the Warden is a notable Blood Mage? This is a tricky area. The Warden can be a Blood Mage, but there's no canonical story for the Warden nor any official storyline unlike Mass Effect where the default storyline is that Shepard is a Soldier from Earth. So as such, the Warden is not canonically a Blood Mage since that story was never written. -- tierrie talk contr 21:39, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, this is what I meant. The Warden and Hawke could be blood mages, but shouldn't be listed as such, as it is not canon. The blood mage article has been recently edited a few times to add this by different contributors, and I don't want to start/continue(?) edit warring (I've removed this twice now), until there's a policy regarding that kind of material. This also includes companions.
As for official storyline... What about Alistair in Awakening? If you are an Orlesian Warden-Commander, Alistair is king. It's the default preset. I don't consider this canon, just the default present, much like Shepard being a soldier from Earth is just the default Shepard, or the default Shepard from ME2 doing whatever they did. Unless Shepard is referred as such in the comics or the books (I never read them). I don't know how the fandom sees it, but that's just my opinion. --D. (talk · contr) 22:20, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
According to my understanding there is no such thing as "canon" in DA. So no one should try to implement one within this Wiki. There is a different between "canon" and "default". This is my opinion regarding this matter. -- Snfonseka (talk) 03:44, January 19, 2011 (UTC)


I agree, I dont think that just because something is possible, doesnt mean it should be listed as such. I mean like, Wynne can become a blood mage too. And I was just at the Blood Mage page before coming here, and it said that Merrill (Dragon Age II) was a notable blood mage. Is she? I never thought so, unless I missed new information.DalishousFoot (talk) 05:01, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

I have the same problem regarding Zathrian too. -- Snfonseka (talk) 05:19, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

In regards to Merrill, this is a new revelation from PC Gamer. The reference wasn't properly formatted (it's in the "Links" section, so it's easily missed).
As for Zathrian, he used his own blood to create the werewolf curse. So I think it's valid to say that Zathrian is a blood mage. --D. (talk · contr) 05:28, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
This makes sense. And it appears that we have a pretty strong consensus on what is canon and what is default as Snfonseka so aptly put it. Let's go with his and if the Warden is listed under Blood Mage, it should be classified as "The Warden may be a Blood Mage" instead of "The Warden is a Blood Mage". -- tierrie talk contr 06:10, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

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