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Now before I start this is NOT going to be "Flemeth is an Old God, Flemeth is an OGB, etc.", this will be about a power I THINK (I'm not saying it's fact) she has.

Ok, I'v been wondering about how Flemeth is able to "predict" events that are going to happen, Then I came up with an Idea, What if she is able to see WHAT is going to happen but not WHEN it is going to, and that she is able to see WHO is involved in an event (and the choices they'll make),this would give her a cause to protect the treatys and save the Warden as she has seen the Archdeamon attack Denerim and has seen the Warden there, And knows that He/She is the one to defeat it and how she knows that "This blight is greater than they Realise".

Now for killing her, I think that she can't see the outcome of a decision when the person involed has choice to do it or not, Which means she knows the Warden has a choice to kill her or not but doesn't know what He/She will do, Which would explain why she got Hawke to take her to Sundermount as a "fallback" plan incase the Warden did kill her and shes that He/She could and when she is "brought back to life" at Sundermount she assumes that Morrigan had the Warden kill her, Now when she rescues Hawke and friends I don't think she Intended to rescue then but was just at the right place at the right time which is why she says "Is it fate or chance, I can never decide" and is why she asked where they were going and when she found out they were going to Kirkwall she saw an oppertunity to escape as she saw Hawke at Sundermount with her, which is why she decided to help them, After she would have went back to her hut were the Warden would find her, But before He/She did she would have seen what Hawke would do in the future (Meaning the Mage/Templar war) and when she is finally "reborn" the first thing she says is "Ah, and here we are" meaning she was waiting for this moment and that she says that "Destiny awaits us both" and I think that the reason that she is not seen in the rest of the game is indeed because of the of the Mage/Templar war because either way the Templars would be mounting an army and if she could be killed by the Warden she did not want to be caught by an army of Templars.

I also think she has the same ability as Eleni Zinovia, who was able to predict to Archon Valerius that his house was going to fall but not when, which may also give Flemeth a link to the Tevinter Imperium. 18:38, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Any Suggestions are welcome but please stay on topic, Thanks.--Freedom4mage (talk) 21:00, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Good Lord, that was long and a little confusing at first. Interesting idea, and original seeing as most of these discussions about Flemeth make her all-powerful. I actually like this one. --CommanderCousland (talk) 02:12, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

The fact that Flemeth has been there for people such as King Maric, The Warden and Hawke is very interesting. It's as if she sees the possible futures for each of them and know what great impact on Thedas they may bring. She is conveniently there to save these protagonists (ie the Warden from Ostagar, Hawke from the destruction of Lothering and Maric from being captured or killed by the Orlesians) and then she lets them go to let them carry on their own paths. Morrigan, Anders and Fenris claim that she's no blood mage, abomination or human entirely. But I have no more than wild theories about what she really is. All what I can guess is that Flemeth is pushing the world towards something and I think that the latest development with the Mage-Templar war is another crucial point. Also, Flemeth has an affinity for Fereldans, given that our heroes were from that country. Does it have a connection to a certain Maker-chosen-prophetess who was rumored to be born in Ferelden? But it's just my theory. Who's to know but the game developers themselves?--Unic of the borg (talk) 02:31, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

MINOR NOVEL SPOLIER! In the prequel novels, Flemeth tells Maric that a Blight is coming soon to Ferelden, but will not happen while he's still alive. And, sure enough, the 5th Blight happens 5 years after Maric's death. That indicates to me that Flemeth is as much capable about forecasting WHEN as WHAT or WHO. And let's not also forget that she speaks of Hawke's destiny even before she takes them to Gwaren, "Hurtled into the chaos, you fight... and the world will shake before you." And "It gets no easier, your struggles have only begun."

What was always interesting to me was Flemeth's attempt to 'warn' the Wardens before Ostagar, "tell them that this Blight's threat is greater than they realise," a warning that doesn't really get passed on (thanks, Alistair). To me that suggests that Flemeth is uncertain if events to happen at Ostagar are 'fate' or 'chance'. As for rescuing the Warden at Ostagar, I'm unconvinced that she did so 'knowing' it was his destiny to end the Blight (that he would be fighting the Archdemon at Denerim) as opposed to his being the only Warden she could save and 'hoping' that it was his destiny to do so. Thus, while I agree that there are definite limits to Flemeth's predictive powers, I'm not sure that they are limited in the way the OP suggests. Qalanalt (talk) 03:42, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

She could have seen Maric's death and the blight happening after it, as for the Warden she would have seen that it was their destany to end the Blight as she saw the Warden fighting the Archdeamon, even though he/she might not be the one to kill it he/she would be needed for it to happen anyway.--Freedom4mage (talk) 04:25, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think Flemeth is Andraste - Guest

Why?

Unic the borg seemed to imply something like that earlier, but in response to that point- which was, if I'm not mistaken, based on the tendency of Flemeth to apparently favor Fereldens- Flemeth lives in Ferelden (or its outskirts) during the time of the games and novels, and was supposedly originally from Highever or its surrounding areas. I think that might have more to do with her involvement with Ferelden heroes/events than a connection to Andraste. But then again, I don't know either.Liam Sionnach (talk) 16:29, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I seem to remember the game saying that Andraste was born in Denerim and Flemeth was from Highever. I know that information back then was limited, but that argument just doesn't cut it. Bioware didn't get sloppy with info in DA:O. --CommanderCousland (talk) 18:01, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I used to think Flemeth was Andraste, and still see that as the most reasonable explanation, however, I'm not 100% certain of my own opinion. @CommanderCousland, you're correct about the places of birth, but I believe that Flemeth was from Highever in the legend of Connobar and Cormac, so it's left ambiguous. Since she's "not even truly human" I'm not sure we can be certain she's even a Fereldan, or even a Theodesian for that matter. King Cousland (talk) 18:40, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

What happened to "Flemeth is NOT going to be such and such" this fourm is not about what Flemeth IS, it is about what she can DO.--Freedom4mage (talk) 18:55, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's a good theory and it explains alot. So say you are right. That's one third of a possible trinity to explain Flemeth.1: what is she capable of surrounding major events? 2: What is she planning? 3: What the hell is she entirely? If you can at least answer Your theory relates to Number One. though the answer to that is a rather long list when you think about it. I can care less about Number Three. I want to know the answer to Number Two. Because Number One might not see a true answer until much later in the game. The answer to Number Three could be answered if Number Two is answered. I would prefer Two to be answered because I'm tired of hearing theories about Three personally. But back to the point. Good theory. GreyWolf84 (talk) 01:22, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

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