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So... Ive been talking with a couple friends who have played DA:O with me and we have come to a belief that Duncan is not dead. Our beliefs are that he was captured by Darkspawn and taken to where the taint would consume him. We already know that he can become like a darkspawn if left to let the taint consume him. (Also seen where Tamlen, the friend of the Dalish Warden is brought back into the picture as a ghoul when attacked in camp by Shrieks. Also, Alistair had mentioned that Duncan had dreams saying it was near his time to go into the deep roads and fight his final battle. We also see that they are capable of Blood Magic and they are intelligent. (as seen when they hung Cailins dead body in the return to Ostagar DLC) and we find no body that belongs to him in said DLC. Could it be possible that we will see him as a right hand (or left hand... i prefer left hand.... damn right handed world... >.>) of a future archdemon? What is to say that they held a fate worse than death for the leader of the Grey Wardens of Ferelden? --BolDen89

After not showing his death definitively in the Ostagar cutscene, and there being no body in RtO, I thought the devs may be hinting at something too. However David Gaider has said "Duncan is dead. If he appears again, it would have to be in a story that takes place prior to Origins, if anything" [1]. So it's looking unlikely that we'll see Duncan again :(. Loleil ^Talk 05:24, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

yea the writer did said duncan was dead, so if they ever plan to bring him back, they would have to relate the book dragon age the calling to the game, and use the architect as a excuse to bring back duncan as if he was captured by the architect, but is a far fetched dream.. still i would like that, i liked duncan, but yeah with no body to be found like cailan's is possible he was taken so that his blood may be used to make the darkspawn smart. like in DAACrod305 (talk) 08:46, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I like to think that they ate his body. Made juicy duncan burgers.

I did wonder about what happened to his body but I would guess that there were so many bodies on the battlefield it would be impossible to tell. The darkspawn may have taken him away. I would assume that had he survived he would have found some way to return to the grey wardens. The other option is he was captured by Loghains troops and murdered. Diidii (talk) 11:20, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how he could survive an axe blow to the head, I'm thinking he is gone. I remember reading how that you never see a grey warden die in DA, nor do you see a dead one, so I think the reason they don't is to keep a certain mistique about them. And really I don't see, storywise, what good bringing him back would do. --Lady Kathlyn (talk) 12:16, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Also, I don't think the darkspawn knew that he was a warden. I think they just treated his body like they treated all of the other dead soldiers. Yet, I think they knew that Cailen was the king. Shiny gold armor kind of sticks out. --Fantasyeve87 (talk) 04:35, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

We know that he had started and feel the "Song" or what u should say. Maybee he survived and heard by some1 that Alistair/Anora/+Warden are King/Queen and feeled it was safe for him to go to Frostback Mountain and make his last performance in the world...? Thats Maybee an option? --Chackis (talk) 07:30, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

For the love of the Maker, Duncan is dead. He died at Ostagar, so says the Word of God (David Gaider, the lead writer of Dragon Age himself). There is no arguing this, no point to the theories of what "might have happened to him", he died in the battle. --Aedan Cousland (talk) 08:31, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you Aedan Cousland, but please don't use the word "maker" even in the forums. It's kind of creepy. It does sound cooler than god, but this is the real world. Not Ferelden or Thedas.--MasterMage (talk) 08:38, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

How is the word "maker" creepy? It's just a term for God, and it can be used as such (and has been) in the real world as well. --Aedan Cousland (talk) 08:48, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree as well that Duncan is dead... end of story! However, I agree with the folks here as well that Duncan was an amazing character that I wish was in the game more! I know there is alot more about him in the books which I must read cause he is a pretty unique character. My biggest disappointment with Return to Ostagar was that there was NO way to retreve his sweet looking armor/robes. I would have rather equiped those then say the King's armor. I'm still holding out hope that in a new game there will be a way to purchase or find robes similar to his as a matter of respect for his character. I mean come on... that was some sweet gear, haha. --Slim7180 09:29, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

You can get an 'Unofficial DLC' version of Duncan's armor (Not made by BioWare), but it only works correctly on human males. Since it was really only meant for him, there is bad clipping on the other body types. --Aedan Cousland (talk) 09:41, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Really a DLC of Duncan's armor? Must be for the PC version cause I haven't seen it on the PS3, my playing format, unfortunately... but thanks for the heads up Aedan! --Slim7180 09:58, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's PC only sadly, you PS3/360 players always throw me off. I can't even imagine playing a BioWare game on a console, the user made stuff is half of what I love about their games. --Aedan Cousland (talk) 10:09, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

That's not a DLC, it's a mod. There is a huge difference. Max21 (talk | contr) 10:17, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

DLC is 'Downloadable Content' meaning it's something you download to add something to the game that otherwise wasn't there. Since I posted a link to a download for adding an armor to the game that doesn't otherwise exist (it's not just an unavailable item, it's not even in the resource tables at all), it qualifies as a DLC. It is not an 'Official DLC' (one released by BioWare) it is 'user made content'. There is a bit of crossover in the terms, and both are technically correct. A mod can simply be a script added to certain files (though it can be DLC), I use the term DLC to be more specific as to what you have to get/do. I suppose I'll edit my above post to make the fact that BioWare didn't create it clear. EDIT: Just to be clear, there is not a huge difference between Mod & DLC, they are only a slight distinction away from being synonyms. --Aedan Cousland (talk) 11:19, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

DLC has the connotation that it is made by Bioware. Mod has the connotation that it is made by fans. That's a huge difference, even if it is just one word. Max21 (talk | contr) 12:38, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

You're the one giving it that connotation, not anyone else. Both of those words have been around (and in use) for many years, long before paid DLC from game companies was even a common thing, and when companies were very rarely involved in making DLC of any kind. The vast majority of DLC ever made in the history of DLC was made by users and not game companies. You're the one trying to separate the words, when they are, in actuality, practically the same thing. Only recently have game companies begun creating their own DLC in mass (calling it what it is, DLC), and that's not enough to change the definition of the term. Since DLC from game companies has just become a big thing, there is not yet any accepted rule set, nor any commonly accepted protocol for which word to use. Any distinction you personally make is exactly that, personal. --Aedan Cousland (talk) 13:21, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Why am I even arguing this? It really doesn't matter all that much. Though if this wiki is going to try to implement some protocol on terminology used (to avoid any potential misunderstandings), a list of appropriate terms and their distinctions from similar terms would be useful. I have no real problem adjusting my technical vocab on this wiki as necessary, but that 'DLC vs Mod' distinction I will likely use only on this wiki, as I don't think I've ever had anyone misunderstand before in all my years playing games with DLC/Mods. --Aedan Cousland (talk) 13:36, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I know why you are arguing it... because it is dumb. He is making a deal over nothing and trying to put arbitrary definitions on common terms, supposedly to clarify something that didn't need clarified. And yes it matters, it matters when people try to bully others into doing what they want for no other reason than they want it. You should always take a stand on the side of common sense and good manners. So good for you!!! --Lady Kathlyn (talk) 05:21, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I can't imagine playing a PC game again. I'd miss my couch, 56" HDTV and audio equipment. Not to mention how often you have to tweak your PC just to get it to play games well... LVTDUDE (talk) 03:14, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

PC's can be quite the experience though. I had a projector hooked up to it with a 5.1 surround system. Gaming in a home theatre, now that's worth some tweaking. --Fantasyeve87 (talk) 03:32, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I know we're getting off-topic here, but I'm playing DAO on a PS3 with a 56" HDTV, 7.1 channel surround, Vandersteen Speakers, Velodyne Sub and Hafler amplification. This gaming experience is awesome. I realize you CAN do this with PC gaming, but it takes an awful lot of work, expense and continual updating. I'm so glad I don't have to worry about buying new soundcards, etc., anymore. LVTDUDE (talk) 04:14, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I understand your perspective. All platforms have their ups and downs. I won't get into a platform war though ha ha. I think it's too off topic and we don't want to upset people. --Fantasyeve87 (talk) 12:58, June 17, 2010 (UTC)