Does anyone know which, Anders or Fenris, is the bisexual romance option for DA2? King of the Dusters (talk) 23:16, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
Anders, strange I know.--Chargedjester (talk) 23:18, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
Is it really Anders? I would believe that before I'd believe it's Fenris. But I didn't think it's been announced yet. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's true. I WOULD be surprised if it's Fenris, but I don't think it is. XIII Lightning (talk) 23:27, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Whoops my mistake (was half asleep when writing my 1st post) as Madasamadthing said this hasn't been confirmed, though theres quite a lot of rumours and gossip that it may be Anders going around the net. I only find it strange (if this is indeed the case) because I never really got the feeling that any of the dialouge in Awakening pointed in that direction, he hits on Velanna the first chance he gets and reminisce's (sort of) about a female templar. I mean looking back it becomes more obvious about the whole Anders possession thing as its heavily implied through party conversaion between Justice, Anders & Nathaniel.--Chargedjester (talk) 00:19, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
The only bisexual LI they've announced is Isabella, and right now, all we know is that Anders, Fenris and Merrill are the other love interests. It could be all of them are options for either gender, it might be there is only one bisexual LI per gender. You just have to wait until they either announce it, or you play the game. --Madasamadthing (talk) 23:39, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
- No there are definitely two, from our own page, "Dragon Age II will feature romances "for all genders and orientations."". King of the Dusters (talk) 00:59, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
- No, that's fairly ambiguous. Its like saying that Origins features romances for all genders and orientations. While technically true, its still has Morrigan and Alistair as the straight options, with Zevran and Leliana as the bisexual options. We still don't know what way the options go beyond Isabella being available to both genders. --Madasamadthing (talk) 01:05, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
I would have though it would be Fenris though. Desmond Cousland (talk) 00:52, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
Which would have meant that in two games, the male Elven companion would have been bisexual, and would be the start of a stereotype, which is usually a shot to the foot for a game, as it ends up being something expected by the fanbase, and indicates that the company doesn't have much originality. And for the love of....Fenris is not Zevran! --Madasamadthing (talk) 00:56, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for this comment. I totally agree. They really don't need to start a tradition of male elven companions as bi and even though I LOVE Zev (seriously, I can't resist that guy when I play), I don't want any assumptions made that they are similar since it's clear their very different characters. Zevran was the obvious bi choice of the two in Origins and I feel very strongly that Fenris isn't bi. I don't want to seem rude or anything but I really just don't want it to be him. But then again, I was the one getting a bi vibe from Varric and he's not even a LI, of which I'm sort of disappointed. XIII Lightning (talk) 01:06, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Yep have to agree and is likely the reason why Anders seems to be getting a lot of attention in respect to the Bi option (if there is actually only one from each gender).--Chargedjester (talk) 01:11, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
Exactly. But elves are effeminate and from what I can gather bisexuality is common in elves (and in all the races to be honest), I don't think that a stereotype would start it would just be reinforced. If it is Anders they run the risk of shooting themselves in the foot anyway as we all know and love Anders, that cheeky mage that flirts with most females he sees. I got no inclination that he would ever be bisexual. Do we know for definite that there will be only 4 romance options? I got that vibe from Varric too. Desmond Cousland (talk) 01:16, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
I honestly don't see a problem with Fenris being the bisexual option if that's indeed what he may be. He's a bit too JRPG anyway (has nothing to do with this discussion of course, but I just wanted to put that out there). It is a bit odd if both bisexual options for males was an elf but I hardly think it's going to become a stereotype. If that's the case, then maybe there shouldn't be any options for homosexual encounters with elven male prostitutes? Lest it become a stereotype. Also, no-one seems bothered by the fact that Ohgren is a dwarf sterotype. (DDragonfly1990 (talk) 01:21, February 21, 2011 (UTC))
I kind of always went along with the Drowtales Universe on elven sexuality. In that universe, all Drow(Elves) are innately bisexual, and anyone who is only sexually attracted to one gender, be they straight or homosexual, is seen as slightly odd or strange. I guess there's not evidence to support that theory in The Dragon Age Setting, but it's how I always think of elves in any fantasy universe, unless there is specific evidence that completely counters that idea. DeltaEcho (talk) 01:29, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
I don't think the writers are worried about a stereotype of elves. Iona is bi and although as a male warden you can sleep with a male elven prostitute you can do the same with dwarves and humans. Although there is no hard evidence there is still some circumstantial evidence Desmond Cousland (talk) 01:37, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
Wait, Varric isn't a love interest? Great, another Dragon Age that says LIttle [people can't have relationships with a normal sized person. Aw well, he was creepy looking with that chest hair anyway.EWRPV (talk) 02:21, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
I want to know when we're going to get the Caligula based options personally. Why beat around the bush...er...whatever. The Grey Unknown (talk) 03:14, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
- I think Fenris will probably be bi (not because he is an elf) because Anders showed really no interest in men as sexual partners. And honestly for me not knowing the timeline of when you meet Anders in DA2 it hard to say if this could have changed (not that it isn't possible). I mean we know that Dragon Age:Origins Awakening takes place 6 months after DA:O and that meeting Anders takes place sometime after that, but could this be enough time for him to determine that he is bi sexual, or is he bi sexual and just has a preference for women like Zevran (I'm sorry if that dialogue changes if you are a male and romanced Zevran, but I have not played DA:O as a male character) or this could be a new discovery for him as the romance goes on. I think it is also a matter of personal back story. With Anders he felt trapped in the Circle and would periodically escape and be captured by a female templar as kind of bright side to being captured. In this I could see how he could fall in love with a man or woman being exposed to who was in the tower. On the other hand Fenris is a Tevinter Magister slave and is guarded from physical contact most likely due to the act of having lyrium burned into his skin rather than the act of wiping, beating, etc. In this sense I could see him falling in love with a man or woman as well. But to be honest my prediction is just based on the history I have had with Anders in Dragon Age:Origins Awakening. Either way I just hope everyone will enjoy their game and their love interests, so to that I wish everyone good gaming!Greywardenkt (talk) 03:48, February 24, 2011 (UTC)Greywardenkt 2/23/2011