Upon arriving at the Abandoned Ruins, Hawke witnesses Elren berating the guards for failing to deliver justice to a murderer whose victims include his daughter, Lia. If questioned, Elren says that the murderer has been killing elven children, and implies that death is the only appropriate punishment.

After finding the murderer, Hawke can kill Kelder to receive Elren's thanks along with 1. Although Lia is found alive, bringing Kelder to Magistrate Vanard angers Elren, who says that they will have to leave Kirkwall to be safe.