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You don't need a king to face a Blight. You need a Paragon! ―Oghren

Quest
A Paragon of Her Kind

Branka
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A Paragon of Her Kind is a main quest in Dragon Age: Origins. Having retrieved the ancient Warden Treaties prior to the Battle of Ostagar, the Warden journeys to the Frostback Mountains to enter Orzammar and gain the assistance of the dwarves in the battle against the Blight. The Paragon Branka must be found in order to determine the next King of Orzammar.

The Warden of Dwarf Commoner or Dwarf Noble Origins will have some small changes in this quest.

Acquisition Edit

The quest is started by talking with Alistair after the introductory quests, and it takes place around Orzammar and within the Deep Roads themselves.

Walkthrough Edit

Note: This walkthrough covers only the bare basics for A Paragon of Her Kind. See Frostback Mountain Pass, Orzammar Hall of Heroes, Orzammar Commons, Dust Town and Orzammar Diamond Quarter for maps, creatures and treasures. See Orzammar for other quests in the area.

Entering Orzammar Edit

Entering the Frostback Mountains, the Warden will run near a stone bridge, where there will be a group of bounty hunters waiting to collect on the Warden's head.

Note: The Bounty Hunter here has the rare drop Knight-Commander's Helm.

Past this, farther to the north, is the entrance to Orzammar. Upon approaching it, the Warden will see an Orzammar guard refusing entry to Loghain's messenger, Imrek. The Warden will have to either intimidate the emissary away (requires Improved Coercion) or fight him along with his two bodyguards.

Either choice results in entry to Orzammar via the Orzammar Hall of Heroes. (The Hall of Heroes contains Codex entries on the statues, as well as a Council edict that is part of The Key to the City quest.)

Taking the other exit in the Hall of Heroes will lead the Warden into the Orzammar Commons. The Warden will see Prince Bhelen and a group of those who support him arguing angrily with Lord Pyral Harrowmont and his group of supporters. This ends in one of the Bhelen's men killing one of Harrowmont's. It is eventually revealed that the groups were representatives of the two candidates being considered as the next dwarven king. The Warden can speak to Orzammar Captain of the Guard and Nerav Helmi for information.

The next step for the Warden should be to find Assembly Steward Bandelor, who is located in the Chamber of the Assembly, which is upstairs in the Orzammar Diamond Quarter. Before you reach the chamber, you can also notice two criers who are each supporting a candidate for the throne. Emotions are running high in the Assembly, and the Warden will witness Bandelor calling for a recess and closing the Assembly Chamber.

If the Warden is from the Dwarf Commoner Origin, Rica Brosca will be waiting upon entry into Diamond Quarter to take you to Vartag Gavorn.

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Choosing sides: Harrowmont or Bhelen Edit

Bandelor will direct the Warden to Lord Pyral Harrowmont and Prince Bhelen Aeducan for a response on the treaties.

Both candidates will send the Warden on long quests, so one is not better than the other. There are several opportunities to switch sides. Regardless of which quests the Warden takes, the final decision (after completing the Anvil of the Void) determines who is crowned.

How successful you are in gaining support for your chosen candidate will affect what item they gift you as a reward as well as the number of enemies faced in the final battle of "A Paragon of Her Kind". Details on how to gain support will be given on the appropriate sub quest pages.

Comparing Candidates Edit

Note: You may wish to refer to the Epilogue for more information as to how these candidates deal with Orzammar.

There are plenty of Orzammar denizens who will explain their opinions on the candidates. Walking around and talking to people will give you a general idea of what they are like. However, for the short version:

Bhelen Edit

Bhelen is the radical, progressive candidate. He:

  • believes the ends justify the means
  • wants to encourage trade
  • allows Casteless Dwarves to fight
Note: Siding with Bhelen initially gives earlier access to the Aeducan Thaig and does not require fighting in the Proving. See: A Prince's Favor: The First Task for more information.

Harrowmont Edit

Harrowmont is the traditionalist candidate. He:

  • believes in honorable conduct
  • is a strong proponent of tradition
  • leans more toward isolationism
Note: Siding with Harrowmont initially gives slightly more experience and gold due to the Proving quests. However, you can also do the provings later if you support Bhelen, so in the end, Bhelen will yield more total experience. See: A Lord's Trust: The First Task for more information.

As a side note, a Dwarf Noble Warden can restore their dwarven honor by siding with Bhelen; He will restore the Warden's status as a member of House Aeducan.

Before a King is Chosen Edit

Before a king is sitting on the throne, you need to perform the Caged in Stone mini-quest (see Codex: Quest-Related and look for the section on "Caged in Stone"). This can be done anytime you have access to the throne room of the Royal Palace and the throne appears as something you can interact with.

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The First Task Edit

Neither candidate is initially willing to speak to the Warden in person. Instead, the Warden must deal with their lieutenants, each of whom will ask the Warden to complete a task in order to gain an audience with their corresponding candidate. Both lieutenants can be found in the Orzammar Diamond Quarter.

Note: Completing "The First Task" for a candidate and then betraying him while still handing in "The Second Task" makes it possible to obtain "A Paragon of Her Kind" twice; one for each candidate.
Bug icon Bug! After completing the first task for either Lieutenant, do not also try to get credit from the other. This can result in a stalemate, preventing further progress of the plot. Instead, either offer to betray the original candidate or speak to the chosen candidate directly.

Siding with Bhelen: A Prince's Favor Edit

Bhelen Aeducan
Prince Bhelen
See A Prince's Favor: The First Task for a more detailed walk-through.

Vartag will ask the Warden to expose a real-estate scam that Harrowmont is using to get votes.

  • Lord Helmi hangs out at Tapster's Pub in the (Orzammar Commons).
  • Lady Dace waits outside her estate in the Diamond Quarter. She cannot ask her house to change sides unless her father, Lord Anwer Dace, agrees. Find him in Aeducan Thaig in the Deep Roads.
    • This also grants access to the previously blocked area, where you can pick up another Key to the City Codex entry.
    • Informing Lord Dace of Harrowmont's betrayal can get the party a surface merchant discount. (However, this appears to apply only to Gorim).
  • Showing the papers to the Shaperate gets you extra dialogue and may affect your decision on who to support as it appears the documents may be fake.
Note: Although selecting sides at this point has no impact on who becomes king, there are two more opportunities to change sides. After completing the first task, it is possible to decide to betray Bhelen; see Shifting Allegiances for more information.

Completing this task will get you an audience with Bhelen, who will give you the second task.

Siding with Harrowmont: A Lord's Trust Edit

Lord Harrowmont
Lord Harrowmont
See A Lord's Trust: The First Task for a more detailed walk-through.

Dulin will ask The Warden to fight as Harrowmont's champion in The Proving. If Zevran is present during this conversation, he will have some choice words to say about Harrowmont.

The grounds are located in the Commons. There are two sidequests to accomplish while there:

  • Baizyl is a warrior being blackmailed into walking away from a fight due to some sensitive love letters. Recover them from the east wing of the area and return them.
  • Gwiddon is ambivalent. A little Coercion sets him straight.

Next, the Warden must win a series of combats in the Proving. You can choose to fight with a partner in the initial battle; the final challenge will include the full party or the two dwarves mentioned above. After completing the Proving, head back to Tapster's and speak with Dulin.

Note: Although selecting sides at this point has no impact on who becomes king, there are two more opportunities to choose sides. After completing the first task, it is possible to decide to betray Harrowmont; see Betrayed from Within for more information.

Completing this task will get you an audience with Harrowmont, who will give you the second task.

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The Carta Edit

Jarvia image
Jarvia
See Entering Jarvia's Hideout for a more detailed walk-through on this section.
See Carta Hideout for map, creatures and treasures.

Both candidates will ask the Warden to get rid of Jarvia and the Carta in Dust Town.

To do this, the Warden must acquire a bone key. There are a few ways to do this:

Figor's Shop Edit

On the way to Dust Town from the Diamond Quarter, the Warden may see some Carta members accosting a shop merchant in the Commons. Upon entering the shop, the Warden can either intimidate the Carta away or fight them.

  • If the Warden is a Dwarf Commoner then you can ask if Jarvia is running the Carta. Roggar says Jarvia is looking for you and leaves. You get access to Figor's shop.
  • Intimidating the Carta gets you information and access to Figor's shop.
  • Killing the Carta will get you the key, but Figor will run away and not come back, cutting off access to his shop.
    • Figor sells a remarkable gem gift and flasks for 1 silver. This requires having installed The Stone Prisoner DLC.

Rogek Edit

Rogek is a smuggler in Dust Town, who is waiting for a surface traveler, and has "an investment opportunity for someone with a few connections above-ground." If the Warden has not talked to him before obtaining the task to eliminate Jarvia (i.e. did not activate Precious Metals side quest to 'delivery' lyrium), then he may be available to provide information on her and how to get into her base. After persuasion with enough money, you will learn about using a special token to enter the Carta hideout. The quest journal will be updated, and you will encounter Carta thugs in a Dust Town Home to relieve them of their entrance key.
Note: After obtaining information about the base, the Warden can ask Rogek about "any other business" for a chance to purchase lyrium, assuming there is sufficient funds (40 DAO goldpiece trans).

Nadezda Edit

Nadezda is a crippled former Carta member in Dust Town who will tell the Warden about the bone key. After speaking with her, enter the 'Slums House'. There will be some Carta members waiting there to initiate a fight. After beating the thugs, the Warden will acquire the key. If you chose the Dwarven Commoner origin story, Leske will meet you instead of Nadezda, and he'll tell you to go to your old house, which is the house you would go and fight the Carta members

Note: There are also two beggars in Dust Town that you can ask about Jarvia, but neither of them give you any useful infomation.

Jarvia's Hideout Edit

Note: After acquiring the key, you may wish to restock your supplies and check your party's equipment, as the Carta hideout is fairly long with a difficult boss battle at the end.

The entrance to the Carta Hideout is labeled 'Suspicious Door' and located at the eastern end of Dust Town, near Nadezda.

Once inside, you will have to fight your way to Jarvia. There are several groups with Carta assassins, elven mercenary casters, and Qunari mercenaries, as well as traps and other normal Origins combat situations.

  • There are some labeled crates inside that are part of a quest. See Jammer's Stash for more details.

Once you get to the end, Jarvia will be waiting for you in a trapped room with lots of friends. If you chose the Dwarven Commoner origin story, Leske will also be there. There is no way to get him to side with you; you have to kill him along with Jarvia.

See Jarvia#Strategy for tips on how to defeat her.

Once Jarvia and company have been dealt with, return to the appropriate candidate to receive the third task.

Note: At this point, it you haven't already, you should visit the other candidate's base (Royal Palace if you are supporting Lord Pyral Harrowmont, Harrowmont's Estate if supporting Bhelen Aeducan) to loot it and acquire quests. For example, if you are supporting Harrowmont, you should take care of the Caged in Stone mini quest in the Royal Palace.
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Entering the Deep Roads Edit

Caridinscross
Caridin's Cross

As though clearing out the Carta wasn't enough, the Warden must then complete a third task: to go into the Deep Roads and find the Paragon Branka.

Branka went into the Deep Roads a couple of years ago to look for a lost dwarven relic called the Anvil of the Void, a forge that was used to make golems. She is presumed dead, but because the other candidate is also looking, whoever the Warden is supporting will request she be found.

Upon accepting this quest, head toward the Orzammar exit to the Deep Roads.

Note: Before entering the Deep Roads, head to the Orzammar Proving. There are 6 Fanatics near the entrance that attack. If you are working for Bhelen they are Harrowmont Fanatics; if you are working for Harrowmont they are Bhelen Fanatics.

After getting close enough to the Deep Roads entrance, Oghren will accost the Warden, explaining his involvement with Branka and asking to go to the Deep Roads with their party. Choosing to put him in the Warden's party at this point is entirely optional, but adding him will get you some extra cut scenes during this quest.

Note: At this point Oghren is not a mandatory party member (he will be when you get to Anvil of the Void (location)). You can leave Orzammar and use him on any other quest, but he will not engage in conversation with you until you complete A Paragon of Her Kind, so the only way to increase his Approval is with Gifts.

Completing this quest involves battling through several locations in the Roads, in the following order:

Ico Thaig
Aeducan Thaig (optional) - This area can be cleared regardless of who the Warden supports. Getting the first quest from Vartag Gavorn in support of Bhelen just gives access to it earlier.
Ico Cross
Caridin's Cross
Ico Thaig
Ortan Thaig
Ico Thaig
The Dead Trenches
Ico Anvil
Anvil of the Void
Note: You may leave the Deep Roads for the World Map to restock or go to camp upon exiting into the Deep Roads map. If you do not wish to do this, you should restock before entering the Deep Roads. Be warned that this is a very long campaign.

As the Roads are being explored, be wary after reaching the Dead Trenches location. Two "special" darkspawn are known to inhabit the area: the Ancient Darkspawn and the Genlock Master Forger.

  • Ancient Darkspawn: Have a healthy stock of health poultices and a healer in your group, if possible. The Ancient Darkspawn can flatten an unprepared group really quickly. As with most special creatures, the Ancient Darkspawn will have a unique weapon and/or piece of armour on him. He will also have a portion of the Topsider's Blade, but only spawns if you have the quest An Admirable Topsider active in your Codex.
  • Genlock forge master: This Genlock is a serious hazard if the Warden runs into him unprepared. He is surrounded by a large group of darkspawn. He himself can use a bow and has very heavy hitting attacks. He will use a bow until a character actually approaches. The Forge Master drops the weapon Forge Master's Hammer.
Note: The Forge Master can get stuck in the rocks if knocked back too far.

Caridin's Cross Edit

See Caridin's Cross for a map, creatures and treasures of the area.

On the first entry into Caridin's Cross, if Oghren is in the party, the Warden has a short conversation with him where he can tell you a bit about Caridin, Caridin’s Cross, Ortan Thaig, and the Anvil of the Void.

  • If you tell him to lead on and shut up then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-1) .

Close to the entrance, Bhelen or Harrowmont will have hired some mercenaries to stop your progress (they will not appear if you are working with both candidates by betraying one secretly).

It is advisable to clear the area completely, although it is not necessary. Clearing the entire area nets you more experience and helps you find all the parts for Asunder, The Drifter's Cache and An Admirable Topsider.

The southernmost exit leads to Ortan Thaig; it doesn't matter what path is taken to get there.

Some notes:

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Ortan Thaig Edit

Orthan thaig
Ortan Thaig
See Ortan Thaig for a map, creatures and treasures of the area.

On the first entry into Caridin's Cross, if Oghren is in the party, the Warden has a short conversation with him where he will remark that he can see Branka's traces all over the place. The party also remarks that the Legion of the Dead passed through here, leaving behind numerous darkspawn corpses.

  • If you suggest that Branka and everyone else may be dead, Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-3) .

It is advisable to clear the area completely, although not necessary; you can find quest progressions for several sidequests here.

In the middle of the map, the Warden will come across Ruck; following him ends in an inevitable spider ambush. After killing the spiders, the Warden can speak to him for information about Branka. After speaking with him, crossing either bridge from his cave will get the Warden to the spider lair area.

Branka's Journal is located in the next area. It is surrounded by spiders, including the Corrupted spider queen, all of which need to be cleared first in order to access the diary safely.

See Corrupted Spider Queen#Strategy for tips on how to defeat her.

Exiting through the north after having read Branka's Journal should take you to The Dead Trenches.

Some notes:

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The Dead Trenches Edit

See The Dead Trenches for a map, creatures and treasures of the area.

Traveling to the Dead Trenches the first time will trigger a cutscene, in which the Warden sees the Archdemon for the first time.

Following the only path at the entrance of the Dead Trenches will lead to a bridge, where some dwarven warriors are fighting off darkspawn. Assist them, and once the battle is over, speak to Kardol.

Kardol will explain to the Warden who he is, and what the Legion of the Dead is doing down there. Afterwards, go ahead and clear the bridge. There is a large group of archers supporting an Ogre at the end of the bridge.

After clearing the group at the other end of the bridge, the Legion will move to the other side. The Warden can speak to Kardol again for a short dialogue.

There is another long bridge roughly in the middle of the map; be on guard here. There is an ambush on your party from both sides once you reach the middle of the bridge.

Past the ambush bridge, there is a set of caverns where the Warden can hear a voice reciting some sort of poem. After passing the caverns and entering some more normal architecture, the Warden encounters Hespith. Speaking to Hespith can reveal some insight on what the darkspawn do with their prisoners, and on Branka.

After conversing with Hespith, continue on to the next large open area, where two ogres await. A large Ominous Door (requiring a special key to unlock) is behind one ogre. After taking care of the ogres, enter the room furthest to the south, which is inhabited by Legion spirits. They will not attack until you have retrieved the Legionnaire Key, which is on an altar with the final piece of the Legion of the Dead armor at the opposite end of the room.

  • In some rubble on the broken bridge is the fairly amusing codex entry of Load Limit Reached.

Head back out and use the key on the large door in the center of the area.

  • Saving here is advisable because the next encounter is the Broodmother. Although immobile, she is fairly strong, has a variety of attack options (multi-targets, ranged, and tentacles), and is made more difficult by the darkspawn she summons during the battle.

After felling the Broodmother, Hespith will make another appearance. Listen to what she has to say, then continue to the exit. At this point, there is a brief opportunity to switch party members and also travel back to camp if necessary to offload inventory.

The Anvil of the Void area is now unlocked and accessible through the Deep Roads map.

Note: This is your last chance to obtain the two-handed sword, Ageless, from the Royal Palace, as the pressure plates will no longer be there after you complete the Anvil of the Void area and return to Orzammar to choose a king.
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Anvil of the Void Edit

Note: Having Shale in the party will trigger extra scenes at the end of this section, and depending on the Warden's choices, Shale may decide to leave the party. It should be noted that once this location is accessed, the party will be unable to leave or gain access to the party selection screen until the situation there is resolved. There is an exception regarding the the party selection screen, see the next paragraph.

Upon entering this area, the Warden will finally find Branka. Oghren will be a required party member for this area; if he is not already in the party then the party selection screen appears with Oghren already selected and locked (he cannot be removed).

Branka cannot be reasoned with, and will trap the party inside the area, forcing completion of A Paragon of Her Kind. She will require the Warden to disarm the traps in the area for her. Upon trapping the Warden, a large group of darkspawn will arrive and attack the party.

  • Branka, naturally, will remain safely behind the barriers until all the traps have been disarmed.

The Traps Edit

  1. The first trap is a tunnel full of darkspawn. This is a very narrow tunnel, with a mix of darkspawn throughout.
  2. The second trap is a gas filled room. This room appears empty at first, but entering it will bring golems to life one by one. There are four gas valves, two by each closed doors on the left and the right. The exit door can be unlocked but requires high Cunning. It automatically unlocks after the golems are killed. These golems can be knocked down by casting Stonefist on them.
  3. The third trap is a hallway with golems on either side. There are 2 blade traps in the hallway and 2 sets of golems will attack as you pass them. The exit door here cannot be unlocked until the golems are defeated. These golems seem harder than the others fought previously. Just as with the previous golems, Stonefist knocks them down.
  4. The fourth trap, and by far the hardest, is the Spirit Apparatus. See the strategy for more information.
Bug icon Bug! pcIcon pcPlacing traps in the room before the golems activate may set up a bug wherein your party is sent directly to the cutscene that plays when you enter Caridin's chamber, and the subsequent final battle -- essentially you bypass the second golem chamber and the Spirit Apparatus entirely.

Choosing sides: Caridin or Branka Edit

Upon disarming the traps, the Warden will gain access to Caridin's forge, where s/he will meet Caridin.

Caridin will tell his story to the Warden, explaining how the Anvil of the Void works. To 'power' his golems, he used the lives of dwarves. (If Wynne is in your party, she will comment that this is equivalent to blood magic.)

At first, Caridin only accepted volunteers. However, the king at the time began forcing others to become golems. Golems became a common sight, often being traded to the magocracy of the Tevinter Imperium and controlled using control rods.

Caridin states that when he opposed the king's decisions, he was punished by being forced to become a golem himself. He then asks the Warden to destroy the Anvil, because he is unable to touch the Anvil as a golem.

Branka will then argue that with the technology of the golems, the dwarves would be able to reclaim the Deep Roads and their homeland. Caridin responds by stating the sacrifice is too great and stands by his decision to have the Anvil destroyed.

At this point, the Warden must choose who to support and decide the fate of the Anvil:

  • Support Caridin and destroy the Anvil
  • Support Branka and keep the Anvil
  • Support Branka and convince her to destroy the Anvil

Regardless of which Paragon is supported, the enemies will be:

  • two Elite Golems
  • two Normal Golems
  • the Paragon not supported
  • Shale will attack you if you support Branka, regardless of her approval rating.

The allies assisting the Warden will be two Normal Golems. The Paragon you support will be immobilized.

See Caridin#Strategy or Branka#Strategy for tips on this battle.

The following items will drop from each Paragon:

Possible Outcomes Edit

Depending on who was supported during the conflict involving the Anvil (Caridin or Branka), the Warden Treaty will be fulfilled in varying ways.

If you sided with:

  • Caridin:
    • You kill Branka.
    • Caridin makes a crown for you and then you destroy the Anvil.
    • Caridin commits suicide.
    • Dwarves assist you during the Blight.
    • You unlock the Liberator achievement.
  • Branka:
    • You kill Caridin and preserve the Anvil:
      • Branka makes a crown for you and stays there to continue working on the Anvil.
      • Dwarves and Golems assist you during the Blight.
      • You unlock the Pragmatist achievement.
    • You kill Caridin and destroy the Anvil:
      • Branka makes a crown for you.
      • You persuade or intimidate Branka to destroy the Anvil (must have high Coercion).
      • Branka destroys the Anvil and commits suicide.
      • Dwarves assist you during the Blight.
Note: Oghren will still approve of your efforts, despite her decision to commit suicide
Bug icon Bug! Convincing Branka to destroy the anvil will award the Pragmatist achievement, as if the anvil had been preserved.
Note: (ps3Icon ps3 1.06) It correctly awards the Liberator achievement.
Bug icon Bug! If you leave the Anvil of the Void by returning directly to the party camp without passing through Orzammar, you can remove Oghren from the party before returning to trigger the coronation cut-scene. In this case Oghren will still speak his lines (and Bhelen will respond to him), but he will be invisible, and while he is speaking the camera will focus on the empty spot where he should be.
Bug icon Bug! There have been reports that the Quest "A Paragon of Her Kind" is shown as completed in the "Blight" questline, but remains incomplete in the "Orzammar" questline (after the new king has been crowned). However, this does not seem to have caused any serious problems (e.g. the player getting stuck) so far.

Before leaving the area, approach the tablet. After interacting with the tablet, Oghren or Shale will inform you that it is a registry of some kind. This is, in fact, the Golem Registry, a record of all the people who voluntarily and not-so-voluntarily sacrificed themselves to become golems. Take a tracing of the tablet; this can be returned to the Shaper Czibor for a reward. Showing the list to Shale will also trigger the quest A Golem's Memories provided you agree to look into it.

Approval Edit

Supporting Branka:

  • Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+4)  - or Approves (+11) if you give in when he tries to convince you
  • Ico Appr Heart Zevran approves (+4
  • Ico Appr Heart Morrigan approves (+7
  • Ico DisAppr Heart Alistair disapproves (-10
  • Ico DisAppr Heart Leliana disapproves (-10
  • Ico DisAppr Heart Wynne disapproves (-15
  • Sten will mock you, but his approval won't change.
  • Shale will leave the party.
  • If you ask Branka to make Oghren into a golem, you will get a severe disapproval hit with him Disapproves (-20) .

Supporting Branka & keeping Shale:

  • You may do this quest before recruiting Shale. With level 4 Coercion and the correct conversation options, you can actually gain Approves (+4) approval, or lose up to Disapproves (-33) in the opposite case. See A Golem's Memories for conversation advice.
  • OR you can leave Shale at camp while supporting Branka and save the Anvil of the Void. At camp, Shale will then question you about what happened to Caridin. By picking the right options in response to Shale's questions, you keep her and acquire A Golem's Memories without showing her the Golem Registry.
Note: Convincing Branka to destroy the Anvil after siding with her will not reverse the approval loss with Alistair, Leliana or Wynne.

Supporting Caridin:

  • Ico Appr Heart Alistair approves (+4
  • Ico Appr Heart Leliana approves (+4
  • Ico Appr Heart Wynne approves (+7
  • Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-10)  - this can be offset to Disapproves (-3) if you allow Oghren to ask Caridin for a boon (Approves (+7) triggers after Caridin commits suicide.)
  • Ico DisAppr Heart Morrigan disapproves (-5)  - this can be offset to Disapproves (-1) if you successfully persuade her.
  • Ico DisAppr Heart Zevran disapproves (-3)  - this can be offset to Disapproves (-1) if you successfully persuade him.
Note: It seems no matter the outcome (Caridin or Branka destroys Anvil or Branka keeps Anvil), completing this quest gives Oghren approval of Approves (+7) just prior to leaving for Assembly.

Result Edit

After resolving the issue at the Anvil of the Void, the Warden can speak to Oghren to proceed directly to the resolution of this quest. Alternatively, upon returning to Orzammar, the Warden can speak to Assembly Steward Bandelor to proceed.

Bandelor will call the Assembly to crown the new king. The decision will fall to the Warden, who may choose either candidate regardless of who s/he helped earlier.

  • If Bhelen is chosen, he will insist Harrowmont be executed.
  • If Harrowmont is chosen, Bhelen will attack and be killed. If Harrowmont's Support reached +6, there should be just a small group of Bhelen supporters. If Harrowmont Support reached +3, there is a sizable group whereas If Harrowmont's Support only reached 0, almost everyone in the room is hostile.
Note: If Harrowmont is chosen as king, some other fights within Orzammar can be initiated by talking to the respective individuals: Myaja, Lucjan and Piotin at the Proving, and Vartag in the Royal Palace. However, the individuals found in the Proving won't attack if the Warden fought for Harrowmont in the Proving.
  • Once the new king is crowned, he will honor the Grey Warden treaties and pledge Orzammar's forces to the Blight. In addition, the new King will give the Warden with a gift. If Harrowmont's support reached 5 or above, he will gift you Harrowmont's Staff. Harrowmont is also meant to offer Endrin's Mace however this is bugged. If support for Bhelen was high enough, Bhelen gives an Aeducan Mace. If it was lower he will offer Trian's Maul. The item received depends on which earlier quests were completed and how much approval was earned for the candidate you choose.
  • After this, Oghren will remain as a permanent companion.
Legion of the Dead

After leaving the Chamber of the Assembly, Kardol will be outside. The Warden can recruit him and the Legion of the Dead to assist in fighting the Blight. Dwarven Wardens need only ask; non-dwarves must pass a high persuasion check. If the Legion is recruited, they will integrate into the regular dwarven units, and Kardol will assist in the battle against the Archdemon.

  • If you miss talking to him outside the palace, you can go back to the Dead Trenches and talk to him there.
Oghren

If you leave Orzammar by the Orzammar Hall of Heroes to the Frostback Mountain Pass then Oghren will ask you to stop for a moment.

  • If you tell him you do not have a moment then Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-1) .

He says he feels as if he's about to fall off the world with all the sky (he says this even if you have already left Orzammar with him in the party before A Paragon of Her Kind was completed).

  • If you tell him to get over it Ico DisAppr Heart Oghren disapproves (-3) .
  • If the Warden is a Dwarf and you tell him the feeling passes Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+1) .
  • If you tell him to take his time Ico Appr Heart Oghren approves (+2) .
Random encounter

Crowning a king enables a random encounter with a group of fanatical supporters of the losing candidate in the Forest Incline location.

Rewards Edit

  • 2500 XP for crowning a new king of Orzammar

One of the following item is awarded depending on the new king:

Ico mace
Aeducan MaceAeducan Mace
Mace
Grey Iron (Tier 2)
Requires: 14 strength

Damage: 5.50
Critical chance: 0.55%
Armor penetration: 4.60
Strength modifier: 1.00
Messy kills
+2 damage vs. darkspawn
, one possible item from Bhelen
Ico warhammer
Trian's MaulTrian's Maul
Maul
Silverite (Tier 6)
Requires: 34 strength

Damage: 13.50
Critical chance: 0.75%
Armor penetration: 12.25
Strength modifier: 1.25
Rune slot Rune slot
+4 damage vs. darkspawn
, most likely item from Bhelen
Ico staff
Harrowmont's StaffHarrowmont's Staff
Staff
Steel (Tier 3)
Requires: 20 magic

Damage: 3.60 (Electricity)
Armor penetration: 26.00
+1 magic
+2 constitution
, one possible item from Harrowmont

Followings are looted incidentally while progressing through this quest:

Ico helm light
Longrunner's CapLongrunner's Cap
Light helmet
Reinforced (Tier 5)
Requires: 17 strength

Armor: 1.75
+0.5/+1 stamina regeneration in combat
, source: Jarvia
Ico gloves light
Pushback StrikersPushback Strikers
Light gloves
Drakeskin (Tier 7)
Requires: 20 strength

Armor: 1.50
Fatigue: 1.15%
+5% melee critical chance
, source: Jarvia
Ico axe
BloodlineBloodline
Waraxe
Varies (Tier 1-7)
Requires: 25 strength

Damage: 8.40
Critical chance: 1.40%
Armor penetration: 3.20
Strength modifier: 1.10
+3 dexterity
+10% spirit resistance
+1 armor penetration
+4 damage vs. darkspawn
, source: Corrupted spider queen
Ico gloves light
Silk Weave GlovesSilk Weave Gloves
Light gloves
Inscribed Leather (Tier 6)

Armor: 1.33
Fatigue: 1.13%
+20% nature damage
, source: Corrupted spider queen
Ico armor massive
EffortEffort
Massive chestpiece
Silverite (Tier 6)
Requires: 38 strength

Armor: 18.38
Fatigue: 26.25%
+15% to healing effects received
, source: Broodmother
Ico ring
Ring of SelectionRing of Selection
Ring
A cruel application that claims adherence to nature's most unforgiving reality, sparing none but the fittest.

+10% nature damage
, source: Broodmother

Followings are looted/received based on the Warden's choice:

Ico mace
VanguardVanguard
Mace
Silverite (Tier 6)
Requires: 28 strength

Damage: 7.50
Critical chance: 0.75%
Armor penetration: 7.00
Strength modifier: 1.00
Rune slot Rune slot
+3 strength
+3 constitution
+1/+2 stamina regeneration in combat

, source: Branka
Ico shield largeroundmetal
Branka's ShieldBranka's Shield
Targe
Silverite (Tier 6)
Requires: 30 strength

Fatigue: 3.13%
Strength modifier: 1.00
Rune slot Rune slot
+4 damage vs. darkspawn
+2 damage vs. beasts
, source: Branka
Ico amulet
Caridin's CageCaridin's Cage
Amulet
A chambered pendant that guides any incoming charge around the central stone. An intricate work of engineering.

+20% electricity resistance
-1 cunning
, source: Caridin
Ico shield smallroundmetal
Caridin's ShieldCaridin's Shield
Buckler
Silverite (Tier 6)
Requires: 26 strength

Fatigue: 0.0%
Strength modifier: 1.00
+10% cold resistance
+10% electricity resistance
+10% spirit resistance
, source: Caridin
Ru charged master
Master Lightning RuneMaster Lightning Rune
Weapon Rune
This symbol is the old Tevinter rune for tempest.

+4 Electrical Damage
, source: Caridin

Side quests Edit

See full list in main area article.

Bugs Edit

  • If sided with Harrowmont, the deshyrs loyal to Bhelen will attack the Warden. They will use mages' staves and cast basic magical attack with them, some will move as though casting a spell, but no bolt comes out of the staves.
  • If the Warden chooses not to go to directly to Orzammar, talking with Oghren in camp may trigger the conversation. Saying you want to go to Orzammar will immediately take you to the cut-scene, but Oghren will be invisible when he speaks to the Assembly and no one will be in your party except for the Warden.
  • If you leave the Anvil via the regular exit and proceed to Orzammar, sometimes the party will end up in front of the Steward but will not get a cutscene. If this happens, just speak to the Steward to proceed normally. However, if you try to leave the area for the Diamond Quarter before returning to speak to the Steward, the cut-scene will be bugged. Neither Harrowmont nor Bhelen will be visible. The game can still continue if Bhelen is chosen, but if Harrowmont is chosen, Bhelen will not appear during the fight, bugging the entire quest.
  • It is possible to kill Bhelen in the Royal Palace using Area of Effect and Cone spells. If he dies there, he will still be present in the coronation scene, but if you then crown Bhelen he will be absent from the end throne room scene, so you will be unable to complete the Orzammar Treaty main quest. If you crown Harrowmont instead (and kill Bhelen a second time), the Orzammar Treaty main quest can be completed.
  • Working for Bhelen and then crowning Harrowmont the quest will not move to the completed quests list.

Trivia Edit

References Edit

  1. Writers of Dragon Age. http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/47/index/560850/1&lf=8
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